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Growing Use of Civil Forfeiture Creates Nightmares for Small Business Owners
Townhall.com ^ | November 18, 2013 | Matthew Needham

Posted on 11/18/2013 5:50:47 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/18/2013 5:50:47 AM PST by Kaslin
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they at one point spoke out against the One and his regime..ON TWITTER....the NSA picked it up and the IRS....went into action..

How quaint this modern America




2 posted on 11/18/2013 5:55:39 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Kaslin

This enrages me. I am glad someone took their case and I hope the IRS gets their asses handed to them


3 posted on 11/18/2013 5:55:40 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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His best bet is to get one or both of his senators on his side. A call from a senator’s office works miracles. My senator got a federal agency to release a drug shipment I’d received from Switzerland. It was legally seized as Congress had passed a law to stop people form importing cheaper drugs that were available in the US. Didn’t matter. One phone call, I got my Celebrex. (There was such an uproar Congress cancelled the law.)


4 posted on 11/18/2013 5:55:43 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin
The time to complain about this was back in the 80's when they started doing this to people suspected of being involved with illegal drugs. Instead, we cheered. And now here we are.
5 posted on 11/18/2013 6:02:59 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MeshugeMikey

Calypso Louie!

On my way to Florida, I stayed one night at a hotel near Montgomery. There was a large contingent of folks who were in town for a Calypso Louie speech.

It was slightly weird to see the crew tromping around at 7:30 a m with their suits, bow ties, and the gals with African robes and head gear.


6 posted on 11/18/2013 6:03:15 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Gen.Blather

Yet another great reason to completly abolish and do away with the IRS, it’s broken and like the “Humpty Dumptey” odumbocare fiasco will never nor should it be be put back to gether again.


7 posted on 11/18/2013 6:08:35 AM PST by DaveA37
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So if I understand correctly, the IRS took their money because they didn’t exceed the level set by law. Sort of like giving you a speeding ticket for driving a few mph under the limit because you were intentionally trying to not exceed the speed limit. Because you were obviously trying to avoid being ticketed by not exceeding the limit.
This is damned insanity.


8 posted on 11/18/2013 6:11:15 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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Instead, we cheered.

I don't know who this "we" is that you refer to, but it doesn't include me.

A lot of folks saw where it was going.

9 posted on 11/18/2013 6:12:15 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nascarnation
Calypso Barack Obama.... starring as Calypso Louie.

when I saw the time magazine cover It knew it was a natural for another Barry obama Parody... x I remember the black muslims" I ran into in Oakland many years ago now...with the males all wearing bowties..

Barry SOetero would have fit right in with that crowd.

Somehow I doubt there have been many civil forfeitures amongst the NOI bidenss owners...since THE ONE was annointed!!!




10 posted on 11/18/2013 6:13:25 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: yldstrk
Activities such as this have been going on since the early 90s. Without abatement.
The Gov't toadies do not even have to "prove" you are committing a crime - they merely have to show that you are pursuing actions that may resemble actions pursued by someone who has the intent to commit an illegal activity, i.e. money laundering.

Once the IRS gets on this trail then the penalty clock starts...and the garnishments...and the account freezes...and the account seizures...all the while the penalty clock is running and interest accrues.

And this ALL happens with no required submission of evidence that an actual actionable crime was or has been or is being perpetrated.

Its beyond human comprehension that this is allowed in the U.S.A.
11 posted on 11/18/2013 6:13:45 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Nik Naym
Sort of like giving you a speeding ticket for driving a few mph under the limit because you were intentionally trying to not exceed the speed limit.

Not quite. It's illegal to exceed the speed limit.

It's NOT illegal to deposit more than $10k. It's just that the bank has to report it.

12 posted on 11/18/2013 6:14:19 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Wolfie

!!!


13 posted on 11/18/2013 6:21:40 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Some of “us” did, but clearly not enough. It was one of those “not my ox being gored” things.

I suspect if one thing was changed, this type of civil forfeiture would disappear, “the seized funds going into LEO budgets” and speedy court hearing. Congress could alter this, but the holderites WhiteyHut might veto, this obvious “graft SOP”.


14 posted on 11/18/2013 6:28:58 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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Pretty soon these IRS azzholes will be in charge of health care and civil forfeit sure of your bank account by electronic transfer will be something they will use/.
15 posted on 11/18/2013 6:29:25 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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The IRS claims that Terry and Sandy violated federal anti-money laundering laws by making regular deposits of cash in amounts less than $10,000. Since banks are required to report deposits larger than $10,000 to the IRS, a firm that consistently makes deposits less than this minimum may draw the attention of the IRS.


Is that like getting a ticket for consistently going just below the speed limit?

I am reading more and more cases like this and it is a total farce. The las says $10,000. This means that if you continually make deposits of $9,999.99 that you may arouse suspicion, but you have done nothing illegal. This points out something else: The article states “...violated federal anti-money laundering laws by making regular deposits of cash in amounts less than $10,000.” I believe that is incorrect. It is completely legal to deposit that amount of money as many times as you want. It’s a free country. The law only states that deposits over that amount must be reported.

The deposits may draw attention, just as creative tax deductions may draw attention, but I’ve never heard of the IRS locking down someone’s assets because they think they may be taking deductions they shouldn’t be taking.

This stinks to high heaven. It’s why my assets are not in bank accounts. They can’t take your silver, gold and real estate without a bit more trouble on their part.


16 posted on 11/18/2013 6:34:30 AM PST by cuban leaf
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‘Collateral Damage’ in the War on Drugs.


17 posted on 11/18/2013 6:36:08 AM PST by Ditto
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I will go without health insurance, notice how the administration played a game of semantics by using “health insurance” and “health care” interchangeably? I will still get treated, I am not signing up for obama care.


18 posted on 11/18/2013 6:41:26 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Good point but the insurance policy at the store would not cover theft about #10K. Thus the deposits to make sure if the store was robbed they had an insurable amount that would be covered. The IRS follows Roman law. You have to prove yourself innocent.


19 posted on 11/18/2013 6:48:30 AM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: Kaslin
Civil forfeiture as it exists today has no place in the American legal system...

Since the government - through laws like FATCA - is now trying to claim that even human persons categorized as American Citizens are the property of the state, it stands to reason that they would not have any qualms about seizing assets owned by their own property.

20 posted on 11/18/2013 6:52:35 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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