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New Mexico police shoot at van full of kids during traffic stop
FOX 8 WGHP ^ | November 18, 2013 | WEB STAFF FOX

Posted on 11/18/2013 8:36:40 AM PST by MarMema

Edited on 11/18/2013 9:11:25 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW MEXICO — A police officer’s dashboard camera captured a dangerous traffic stop on Oct. 28 in New Mexico. According to KABC-TV, the incident turned into a wild scene when the driver took off as she was being ticketed for driving 71 miles per hour in a 55 miles per hour zone.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
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1 posted on 11/18/2013 8:36:40 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

I did not see a link to video at the link posted.


2 posted on 11/18/2013 8:39:06 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: MarMema

What’s the lives of a few kids compared with the need of the nanny state to collect revenue from an uncooperative peasant? You let stuff like this slide and the next thing you know, the peasants won’t be paying their other taxes.


3 posted on 11/18/2013 8:39:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: NEMDF

It’s not a link. It’s the video at the link.


4 posted on 11/18/2013 8:41:38 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEoW80s-InQ


5 posted on 11/18/2013 8:42:10 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Vigilanteman

The officers should be tried for attempted murder. There is no excuse for their actions here.

IMO, of course


6 posted on 11/18/2013 8:42:49 AM PST by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: Vigilanteman

What I think is that I will never ever go to New Mexico, between this and the two guys forced to have colonoscopy
exams on invalid warrants.


7 posted on 11/18/2013 8:43:17 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

71 miles per hour in a 55 miles per hour zone


That’s my entire 62 mile drive to work, but I keep it at 69, for obvious reasons.


8 posted on 11/18/2013 8:44:12 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Dexter Morgan

Life is cheap in obama’s amerika.


9 posted on 11/18/2013 8:44:47 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Dexter Morgan

I have qualms about firing at a car full of kids. If he had shot them while they were attacking him? Not so much.


10 posted on 11/18/2013 8:44:49 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MarMema
Driver was most likely fleeing the roadside cavity search...

Yeah, that's your reputation now, New Mexico.

11 posted on 11/18/2013 8:46:06 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Oberon

Exactly!!! She’s thinking she doesn’t have time to get 12 anal searches, five enemas and a few colonoscopies thrown in for the next 6 hours. ROFL.


12 posted on 11/18/2013 8:47:44 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

Article makes it seem like cops fired after first takeoff. It was after the second.

Neither side handled this well.


13 posted on 11/18/2013 8:50:20 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: MarMema

At what point, does a vehicle fleeing in the opposite direction of the police, make them fear for their lives?


14 posted on 11/18/2013 8:50:26 AM PST by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings (FL-20))
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To: MarMema

stupid badgemonkeys. they dont know Holders peeps are above the Law??


15 posted on 11/18/2013 8:51:15 AM PST by Gasshog (0bama: 146 rounds of Golf and counting... FORE!!!!!WARD!!! -___O)
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To: MarMema

Lucky the family dog was with them...


17 posted on 11/18/2013 8:51:51 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: MarMema

The first two officers acted properly. The third officer shooting at the minivan, did not.


18 posted on 11/18/2013 8:53:40 AM PST by EEGator
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To: MarMema

I saw the video.

The officer who shot looks to be shooting at her tires not the van.

The mistake the police made was not handcuffing her from the start.

She was obviously cantankerous.

They should have sat on her and never let her back in the van and called social services to pick up her kids.


19 posted on 11/18/2013 8:53:47 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Dexter Morgan
I was hoping my post didn't need a < / sarcasm > tag.

Evidently, I was wrong.

20 posted on 11/18/2013 8:53:58 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

was = wasn’t


21 posted on 11/18/2013 8:54:31 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: MarMema

New Mexico, same as old Mexico. :-)


22 posted on 11/18/2013 8:54:59 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MarMema

look at video. 14 yr old boy cross between St. Skittles and Ted Cassidy.

jus black folk being themselves.


23 posted on 11/18/2013 8:55:27 AM PST by Gasshog (0bama: 146 rounds of Golf and counting... FORE!!!!!WARD!!! -___O)
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To: TexasGator
Right - she could have just taken her ticket. Initially the cop was polite and appropriate.

And the first cop could have been less angry and reactive the second time too. When you deal with people who are likely to be upset, as I do in the hospital where I work, one hopes you can avoid taking it personally and rise above your feelings of pride or control or whatever.

At least she managed to avoid the enema process - maybe something in the car labeled as drug paraphernalia really did worry her about that being a possibility.

24 posted on 11/18/2013 8:56:31 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

I went to the link you put up. There was no video there. There was no link to a video there, from what I could tell. Maybe it’s me.


25 posted on 11/18/2013 8:58:52 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: MarMema
I wasn't aware when police pull you over for something, your cooperation is optional.
26 posted on 11/18/2013 8:59:10 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: MarMema

Baby mama transporting her brood out West. she heard there was Gold in them there welfare offices. And who knows next stop Hawai for the big bux!!


27 posted on 11/18/2013 9:01:29 AM PST by Gasshog (0bama: 146 rounds of Golf and counting... FORE!!!!!WARD!!! -___O)
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To: Oberon

New Mexico changing license plates from “Land of Enchantment” to “No Cavern Left Unexplored”.


28 posted on 11/18/2013 9:01:41 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: cuban leaf; MarMema
71 miles per hour in a 55 miles per hour zone

That’s my entire 62 mile drive to work, but I keep it at 69, for obvious reasons.

The road is not an interstate highway.

It is narrow winding mountain road.

She was not stopped in Southern New Mexico for drugs.

She was stopped for speeding on a winding mountainous road
by the State Patrol.


29 posted on 11/18/2013 9:05:21 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: MarMema

I don’t get it. If the plate was good, there was no place she could have driven to that the could not bring her back.


30 posted on 11/18/2013 9:07:03 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: MarMema

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/18/new-mexico-cops-open-fire-on-minivan-full-of-kids-at-traffic-stop-for-speeding/

African-American mother Oriana Ferrell was pulled over in Taos for going 71 mph in a 55 mph zone on Oct. 28. Ferrell was later arrested and charged with child abuse, fleeing an officer and possession of drug paraphernalia.

The 14-year-old boy was charged with battery. The other children were taken into the custody the New Mexico Children, Youth and Families Department. They were later placed in the care of a family known to Ferrell, according to court documents obtained by The Taos News.

At a hearing on Tuesday, Eighth Judicial District Judge Jeff McElroy reviewed the dashcam footage and said that the “court is concerned about the nature of these charges.”


31 posted on 11/18/2013 9:10:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro; Constitution Day

WTFIWWNM?


32 posted on 11/18/2013 9:12:32 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: liberalh8ter

Apparently she has a record of multiple DWIs. More to this story than meets the eye. Although I agree the cop who fired his gun was way out of line


33 posted on 11/18/2013 9:12:54 AM PST by Josa
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To: Gasshog

It all started when black female driver felt she was under zero compulsion to obey a white policeman’s simple orders. Why should she when 0bama the mocha messiah is president??

One account says there was narcotics stuff in the car. Maybe why she took off twice? Was she on drugs at the time? Or maybe her brain is just messed up in general from them.
“possession of drug paraphernalia” is one of the charges


34 posted on 11/18/2013 9:13:23 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: bicyclerepair
Good question.

Maybe he was in fear for his life from being poisoned by her vehicle's exhaust gases?

;-)

35 posted on 11/18/2013 9:13:47 AM PST by WayneS (No problem is so great that it cannot be made worse by a "progressive" solution.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Apparently she has a record of multiple DWIs. More to this story than meets the eye. Although I agree the cop who fired his gun was way out of line


36 posted on 11/18/2013 9:14:13 AM PST by Josa
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To: dennisw

The family is reportedly from Tennessee, but was taking a road trip through New Mexico.

(family in this incident)


37 posted on 11/18/2013 9:15:00 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: NEMDF

There is a huge picture right under the title which in a few moments will show an arrow to click on and watch the video.
It is above the actual article itself.


38 posted on 11/18/2013 9:15:32 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
The road is not an interstate highway. It is narrow winding mountain road.

She was not stopped in Southern New Mexico for drugs.

She was stopped for speeding on a winding mountainous road by the State Patrol.


Gotcha. In my case it is all two lane roads. My biggest concern is deer. And it's just rolling hills but very twisty. It's why I got the FR-S.

And to be blunt, around some corners on these roads, 55 mph would put me in the ditch - even in the FR-S. It's one of the things I love around here. I've moved from the Seattle area where there is a cop around every corner where you even CAN speed due to light traffic, to a place where, if I drive the speed limit, in some places I'll kill myself.

I love that kind of freedom wehn I drive. It is the reason I have enjoyed, for over two years, commuting 2.5 hours every day.
39 posted on 11/18/2013 9:16:40 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Josa
Although I agree the cop who fired his gun was way out of line

I'm reluctant to call out the cop's actions at this point. There could have been a threat issued by the kid who kept getting out of the van and heading at the cop.

40 posted on 11/18/2013 9:18:42 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: cuban leaf

Heh. Seattle has the spookiest cops in the nation. Just heard something else this morning on the radio about them getting nailed for brutality. For awhile the feds were going to take over the Seattle police.


41 posted on 11/18/2013 9:19:40 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

When I go to the link, there is NO picture under the title. Just the article. Maybe it is something in our firewall settings, or something, but I see no picture, no video, no link to video.


42 posted on 11/18/2013 9:20:59 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Josa

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/taos-grand-jury-indicts-mother-in-high-speed-chase/article_8342f186-7827-5c35-a7f1-e663952537c9.html

a recent local account.

If you are a white woman you can’t drive away from police at 100mph in the wrong lane (thereby endangering your children) and claim racism. If you are black you will have lawyers lining up for you


43 posted on 11/18/2013 9:22:52 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: bicyclerepair
It was that 14 year old boy that really scared them.

Most 14 year old boys upon seeing their mother in an altercation would jump into the fray.

I can't believe that a fully armed police officer with gun, taser, night stick, hand cuffs, and especially the extensive training would feel unduly threatened by a 14 year old unarmed boy. I guess there wasn't a dog to shoot.

PS the article doesn't say whether the boy got back in the van when she sped off. If the officers kept possession of the boy, they would at least have someone to do the colonoscopyies on.

44 posted on 11/18/2013 9:23:11 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: TexasGator

But only one side fired bullets.


45 posted on 11/18/2013 9:24:02 AM PST by DManA (enis)
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To: dennisw

take away her Obamaphone. Al and Jessy will be down to NM in a flash.


46 posted on 11/18/2013 9:25:39 AM PST by Gasshog (0bama: 146 rounds of Golf and counting... FORE!!!!!WARD!!! -___O)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

It is narrow winding mountain road.

You make it sound like a goat track. The speed limit was 55. That’s a pretty good road.


47 posted on 11/18/2013 9:26:10 AM PST by DManA (enis)
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To: MarMema

One thing I learned about Seattle area police: If you are pulled over by a motorcycle cop, you’re getting a ticket. I would get pulled over three or four times a year but averaged about one ticket every two years. Whenever it was a motorcycle, I learned it was going to cost me at least something.

One summer day I was leaving the park and ride in my convertible and got stopped by a radar motorcycle cop doing 48 in a 25. I had no proof of insurance, I wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, and my tabs had expired the week before. The cop gave me a ticket for 35 in a 25 and told me to wear my seatbelt and get my tabs renewed...

He was a nice guy, but had to write a ticket.

I got warnings only from cops in cars almost every time. Almost...


48 posted on 11/18/2013 9:26:11 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: dennisw
After being issued the citation, the officer wrote that Ferrell proceeded to drive north in her Kia Sedona minivan after declining to pay the fine or return to Taos to contest it before a judge.

Is this the way it works in NM? You have to immediately pay the fine or plead your case to a judge? I'm assuming this would only apply to an out-of-state driver.

49 posted on 11/18/2013 9:30:26 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: dennisw

*********** Seems in New Mexico you must pay the fine on the spot or go see a judge about it immediately to contest it. She decided to do neither. She got in her van and took off, thus fleeing justice. She just got there and already figures she is above the simple laws of New Mexico. That’s for the white people and the Indians and Mexicans************

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An officer stopped her on State Road 518 near Talpa for driving in excess of the speed limit, according to a statement of probable cause filed in Taos Magistrate Court.

After being issued the citation, the officer wrote that Ferrell proceeded to drive north in her Kia Sedona minivan after declining to pay the fine or return to Taos to contest it before a judge.

The officer followed the 39-year-old Memphis resident for about one half-mile at which point she pulled to the side of the road. A struggle ensued, the officer wrote, as he attempted to remove Ferrell from the vehicle and was confronted by her 14-year-old son.

Two other officers arrived, according to court documents, and the family locked themselves inside the vehicle. The arresting officer wrote that he smashed the passenger side window with his baton before Ferrell drove away again. A colleague fired three rounds at the rear tires “in an attempt to keep the vehicle from leaving,” he wrote.

The officers pursued Ferrell down State Highway 518 before turning north on State Highway 68 and proceeding at speeds of up to 100 mph, according to court documents.

Ferrell brought the minivan to a halt in front of the main entrance to Hotel Don Fernando, the arresting officer wrote. Ferrell and her 14-year-old son were then arrested at gunpoint without incident.

The four other children in the vehicle were taken into custody by the New Mexico Children, Youth and Families Department.

The youths ranging in age from six to 18 were placed in the care of a family known to Ferrell, according to state police.
http://www.taosnews.com/news/article_401433ae-4d74-11e3-9e84-001a4bcf887a.html


50 posted on 11/18/2013 9:30:44 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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