[Ditto]

The cease fire WAS NOT when the helicopters left and the boat people ran away and NV took over the South. That all happened less than a year from Nixon being gone.

It was over a year... August 1974 to April, 1975, and when Nixon was in office, the South Vietmanese held their own. It was after the 1974 Congressional Elections and all aid to South Vietnam was stopped by a hard left Democrat Congress that South Vietnam fell, and the choppers lifted off, a holocause began, and the boat people suffered and died.

Click here for the "Watergate Babies" who cheered for that holocaust. Many of those bastards are still in congress.

I can criticize Nixon for a lot of things. But I can't blame him for the fall of Vietnam. He lived up to his promises as long as he was in office.

[Lakeshark]

I never blamed him for the loss of the war, but unlike you I'm not going to pretend we won. My point has always been that Pat is simply using a wrong example. We have no idea if Kennedy would have done what Johnson did, and we have no idea if Nixon's policies would have won the war.

I also am not sure that Kennedy would have done more harm than Nixon did with his other policies.