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I do despair, are they ever going to get our soldiers out of there. I guess not. Its just a never ending pit of our kids being slaughtered.
1 posted on 11/19/2013 9:34:53 AM PST by sunmars
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Heroin trade support?


2 posted on 11/19/2013 9:36:58 AM PST by free from tyranny
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To: sunmars

To think we basically had that place pacified and Obama has helped our enemies rebuild.


3 posted on 11/19/2013 9:38:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I thought Mr. Nobel Prize Winning First Black President was going to get us out in 2014? Another broken “promise”.


4 posted on 11/19/2013 9:38:43 AM PST by Antihero101607
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.... The only genuine advantage I could see to keeping a few bases open would be to maintain a strategic military footprint in the area.


5 posted on 11/19/2013 9:38:54 AM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: sunmars

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


7 posted on 11/19/2013 9:41:35 AM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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Well, I can tell you one thing, it’s not about winning a war.

11/13

“SEAL’s Parents: Obama’s Rules Of Engagement Killing Our Troops”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3090875/posts


9 posted on 11/19/2013 9:48:45 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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What we need is a standing civilian army just as well funded and just a powerful as the military.....THAT ANSWERS DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE! Then when the regulary army can’t fill it’s ranks our country will still be protected.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 9:50:13 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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Rent free bases, but US funding for Afghan security forces:
While the document specifically says the United States would not seek “permanent bases” in Afghanistan, the US military would have “access to and use of the agreed facilities and areas.” Some of these areas would be for the “exclusive use” of US troops.

“Afghanistan hereby authorizes United States forces to exercise all rights and authorities within the agreed facilities and areas that are necessary for their use, operation, defense, or control, including the right to undertake new construction works,” the document says.

US troops would be allowed to carry weapons, wear uniforms and guard the perimeter of those areas. The agreement does not say how many “exclusive use” sites there would be in Afghanistan. The United States also would also be permitted to keep vehicles and aircraft in Afghanistan, take off and land from Afghan soil, and fly though Afghan airspace.  The facilities would be provided the US government “rent free,” but significant costs would mount in other ways. 

US PAYMENTS
The draft agreement says the Afghan government should “eventually” pay for all of its defense and security personal. But until then, “so long as the strategic partnership agreement so provides, the United States shall have an obligation to seek funds on a yearly basis to support the training, equipping, advising and sustaining of the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF), so that Afghanistan can independently secure and defend itself against internal and external threats, and help ensure that terrorists never again encroach on Afghan soil and threaten Afghanistan, the region, and the world.” The specific amount of payment is not stated. The money would be “managed by relevant Afghan institutions.”

My guess is a few billion dollars a year in funding for Afghan equipment and staffing. Our presence there will be a boon for the local economy, of course.
11 posted on 11/19/2013 9:52:47 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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The soviets were smart enough to get the heck out of that place..and the US was the one’s that armed the Afghans...who was the most stupid?


12 posted on 11/19/2013 10:07:30 AM PST by goat granny
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There has never been a commitment to eradicate Islamic Terrorism. Obushma must be getting some good poppy from Afghanistan

Pull the US troops...then nuke the place


13 posted on 11/19/2013 10:29:07 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: Real Conservatives Only, Please)
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Unlike Iraq, where this might have actually done some good...


14 posted on 11/19/2013 10:34:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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So the Republic will suffer a death of a thousand cuts...thank you 1st ape.


15 posted on 11/19/2013 10:48:33 AM PST by exPBRrat
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Out. Then, a complete audit. The only reason the Democrats would have to care about Afghanistan is if they’re making money off of the war.


19 posted on 11/19/2013 11:16:35 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Better to turn it back over to the Taliban? Aka al Queda in Afghanistan?

The fact the military leadership of the past two Presidents has been incompetent (Bush) or defeatist (Obama) doesn't change the facts on the ground.

You go to war with the idiot CINC's you've got.

20 posted on 11/19/2013 11:31:55 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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Looks like Bozo’s gonna do some apologizing in some letter that Carney won’t admit to..gee, which part of the time in Afghanistan might The One apologize for??? I despise this POS fraud.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/19/obama-reportedly-to-pen-letter-to-afghan-people-admitting-mistakes-as-part/


21 posted on 11/19/2013 11:36:37 AM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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Without a US base in Afghanistan, civil war will break out and eventually the enemies of America will again have a nation hide-away.

For a time I led a UN project office in Afghanistan. The oldest and wisest white-haired Afghan once told me "We'll always need an international to lead us, other wise we will fight among ourselves." Sure enough, several years after I left an Afghan stayed a coup, driving out the internationals, leading to corruption and the eventual dismantling of the organization.

Keep in mind that the present predicament of the US goes back to the British, who deliberately created national borders that split the Pashtuns between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and hobbled together opposing ethnicities to cause strife and weakness. The US could have begun fixing this problem by splitting Afghanistan in multiple nations, however, it's also easier for the US to exercise influence over a piecemeal weak nation, than several stronger nations of unified ethnicity.

22 posted on 11/19/2013 11:40:31 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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I’m shocked! No, not that Obama was lying about pulling out of Afghanistan. I’m shocked that NBC is doing some actual reporting.


25 posted on 11/19/2013 11:56:04 AM PST by pluvmantelo (Islam-No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.)
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If you try to defend everywhere, you wind up defending nothing. If you try to solve all the world’s problems, you wind up solving no problems.


26 posted on 11/19/2013 12:01:07 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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ping


27 posted on 11/19/2013 12:09:46 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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Nuke and salt the poppy fields.

Get our US Troops out, dammit! Quit wasting US Blood & Treasure in that filthy shithole.

Israel is the only thing worth protecting in the ME; screw the Petro-Dollars. We’ll survive the SHTF crash.


28 posted on 11/19/2013 7:49:58 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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