(the two of us) , Whenifhow, and LasVegasDave.
Posted on 11/20/2013 5:17:17 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
As scary as the Cleveland Browns' performance on the field against the Cincinnati Bengals was on Sunday, it sounds like the team's plane ride back to Cleveland was even scarier. Browns guard Jason Pinkston said that the team is "lucky to be alive".
Following their 41-20 loss to the Bengals and facing heavy rain and 50mph winds, the Browns made plans to take a bus home. However, they instead boarded a plane when it was deemed safe to make the 45-minute flight home.
Speaking of the flight, Pinkston said: “It was terrifying. It was the real thing. The weather was so bad. We were coming in to land and [the pilot] had to go kind of fast to balance it out and we came down and we hit on two wheels. The [left] wing was literally three feet from hitting the ground." < snip >
(Excerpt) Read more at clevelandleader.com ...
Standard technique for landing with a left-crosswind.
They walked away. The aircraft can be re-used. It's a good landing.
/johnny
Anyone who’d fly from Cincy to Cleveland is nuts. It’s gotta be faster to have buses at the stadium straight up I71 240 miles from Cincy all the way to Cleveland. 4 hours tops.
Yep, sounds like a typical wing-low crosswind landing. I’ve been on aircraft that have also come down in marginal weather and they’ve used less flap and higher speed for better control. (talked to the pilot at the gate) If they’ve got the runway to work with, less flap means less sensitivity to gusts, but requires a higher landing speed and longer roll-out. Different and potentially unsettling unless/until you understand what is going on.
Thanks for clearing up.
(I hesitated to post this thread, keep in mind the report came from a Cleveland Brown’s football player, not the sharpest knife in the drawer)!
The one I referred to in my other post is an example. The landing was odd enough that I asked the pilot about it afterwards. Mostly because of the high speed and because he was adding power the whole way down final and short final! I was thinking coming in without flaps he was behind the aircraft and short on airspeed the whole way in - thought we might plant it short. From the sound of the engines we landed basically at takeoff power. ;-) I'd be happy to never do that again.
All major leagues have catastrophic plans to restock a team in the event of a plane crash...( see Marshall football team) I think in MLB..there’s an emergency draft..teams are allowed to protect 10 players...then if they lose one via the draft , they can protect 2 more, or something like that. You can bet that after this report, they’re all being reviewed, and possibly updated..
Those storms were predicted well ahead of time and they didn’t clear out quickly. They’d already done a ton of damage. Flying into that just kind of says it all about the Cleveland Browns.
Even in good weather it’s dumb to fly Cincy to Cleveland. But, you’re right...bad weather had been predicted for at least 4 days, and too many weathermen were saying it wasn’t going to unleash until after the game.
Still, though, in our area the truly bad line of storms didn’t really hit until about 8 pm. Cleveland is west of us, so any bus would’ve been in Cleveland with hours to spare before 9 or 10 pm.
As taught by Won Wing Lo.
They walked away. The aircraft can be re-used. It’s a good landing.
/johnny
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I was taught slightly different than you.
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing.
If the aircraft is reusable it is a great landing.
A carrier trap is an enlightening experience.
“As the test pilot climbs out of the experimental aircraft, having torn off the wings and tail in the crash landing, the crash truck arrives; the rescuer sees a bloodied pilot and asks. ‘What happened? The pilot’s reply: ‘I don’t know, I just got here myself.’”
“Mankind has a perfect record in aviation. We never left one up there.”
“Standard technique for landing with a left-crosswind.”
Thanks. I just had an Aha! moment regarding a cross-wind 737 landing in blowing snow at Hay River, NWT, back in January 1970.
We fish-tailed, then slewed cock-eyed and skidded dead center down the icy runway sort of on a 45 degree angle.
Best. Landing. Ever.
It’s why I laugh when someone suggests planes can be flown completely by wire - takeoff to landing.
Obviously those folks have never landed in Kodiak, AK, for example.
Another player with his panties in a bunch.
“Bullied” linemen who leave the team, whiny receivers who want a flag on every play, quarterbacks who no longer can be touched.
The NFL should just convert to flag football now. They even can take the Lingerie League name — the women aren’t using it.
I have often wondered about that after reading about g forces exerted on the pilot.
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