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OH:Arguments to ricochet as gun bill is debated
dispatch.com ^ | 18 November, 2013 | Jim Siegel

Posted on 11/20/2013 5:52:07 AM PST by marktwain

The latest sweeping changes to Ohio gun laws, including a “stand your ground” provision, have generated fierce debate, and the gun bill containing them is set for action in the Ohio House this week.

House Bill 203 contains a number of components, including efforts to ensure that cities can’t avoid paying attorneys fees when their gun laws are challenged, and ensuring that people don’t get concealed-carry licenses in Ohio who don’t even qualify for purchasing a gun.

“We are attempting to get our constitutional rights back,” said Gary Witt, legislative coordinator for Ohioans for Concealed Carry.

But the bill, scheduled for a possible committee vote on Tuesday, contains several controversial provisions that have drawn fire from law enforcement and advocates for gun restrictions.

“The changes suggested in this bill are not warranted and will not increase the safety of Ohioans,” said Toby Hoover, founder of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence.

A look at some major provisions and arguments from both sides:

(Excerpt) Read more at dispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; guncontrol; oh
As is usually the case in these debates, the opposition puts forward numerous hypotheticals, none of which is backed up by the facts. A classic case of "progressives" claiming that most people are too stupid to have rights.
1 posted on 11/20/2013 5:52:08 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It is good for the other side to debate.

The ACA or Obamacare is what you get when there is no debate.

Medicare part D which is under budget and wildly popular is what you get when republicans are in control but with some democrat input.


2 posted on 11/20/2013 5:55:04 AM PST by staytrue
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To: marktwain

Those opposition comments are telling. They amount to either “we don’t need this” or “we don’t want this”, with nothing to back it up.

The best argument against such people is to point out where such law works well in other states, then ask them if they think the people in their state are inferior, less capable, or less intelligent than the people in other states?

Please tell us why we shouldn’t have gun liberty because we are inferior.


3 posted on 11/20/2013 6:18:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: marktwain; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping

The latest sweeping changes to Ohio gun laws, including a “stand your ground” provision, have generated fierce debate, and the gun bill containing them is set for action in the Ohio House this week.

House Bill 203 contains a number of components, including efforts to ensure that cities can’t avoid paying attorneys fees when their gun laws are challenged, and ensuring that people don’t get concealed-carry licenses in Ohio who don’t even qualify for purchasing a gun.


4 posted on 11/20/2013 3:04:05 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: marktwain

Who do we call, snail and E-mail to get this passed?


5 posted on 11/20/2013 7:02:44 PM PST by nomad
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