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To: Berlin_Freeper
This pushes the second wave of 100 million cancellations past the election.

I don't think so. The cancellation notices will have to go out by October 1, regardless of the sign-up deadline, in order to provide the required 90 day notice ahead of January 1, 2015 when the old policies have to be cancelled.

You can't outrun a train wreck unless you can step off the tracks, and that's a step that the Obamaites are entirely unwilling to take.

Still, between now and the mid-term elections there will be a continuing and ever growing chorus of folks being denied doctors, access to hospitals, their former providers no longer in their networks, huge deductibles, outrageous premiums, on and on.

The big story over the next year is going to be the enormous number of individuals and families who simply refuse to participate in this fraud, the rise of cash-up-front doctor networks, and the destruction of the insurance companies' risk pools.

Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate. They have truly set off a wave of unintended consequences that will continue unabated for months if not years to come. The scope of the damage this law is going do to individuals and families, to say nothing of the general economy, is monumental, and it's too late to do much of anything about it now, other than for individuals and families to protect themselves by totally opting out until the process has played itself out around 2017.

26 posted on 11/22/2013 12:47:57 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate.

Awesome analogy.
27 posted on 11/22/2013 1:01:56 AM PST by 867V309 (Obama- he's just crazy enough to do it.)
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To: John Valentine

You don’t think there will be another decree? Maybe push it out another month, maybe abolish the 90 day lead time?

No decrees! Enforce the law.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 1:06:01 AM PST by Ray76
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To: John Valentine
There's another catastrophe on the way.

I think the potential number of new Medicaid enrollees has been seriously underestimated.

ObamaCare planners claim Medicaid will increase by 17 million people over 10 years.

Want to bet, Barack?

Washington state has the best functioning ObamaCare website in the country, we are more prosperous than most states so less Medicaid is needed, and our population is just 2% of the country.

In seven weeks, we have almost 100,000 new Medicaid enrollees!

Extrapolate that to all 50 states, and that would be 5 million new Medicaid enrollees in seven weeks!

And, consider this.

Most people who are willing to go through all the time and effort to sign up for free Medicaid probably have a pre-existing condition that needs treatment.

On January 1, literally millions of new Medicaid enrollees will be calling doctors and trying to get appointments!

That will shut down the whole freaking medical system!

46 posted on 11/22/2013 1:46:18 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: John Valentine
I don't think so. The cancellation notices will have to go out by October 1, regardless of the sign-up deadline, in order to provide the required 90 day notice ahead of January 1, 2015 when the old policies have to be cancelled.

I agree. People are being given an extra week in which to enroll. But the content of the plans and the pricing, and as you say the cancellation notices will go out long before that.

If anything this may help us somewhat, because while it's impact may be limited only to procrastinators who wait until that very last/extra week to look at the plans available to them, it sure as heck presents the appearance of playing politics with peoples' healthcare to limit the damage in an election.

That may not sway a lot of people one way or another, but in a good number of races the negative impacts of ObamaCare PLUS the "technical delay" that just happens, in a lucky coincidence, to push enrollment past the election, may create enough angry people to provide the tipping-point between a Dem win and a GOP on.
53 posted on 11/22/2013 3:28:01 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: John Valentine
Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate. They have truly set off a wave of unintended consequences that will continue unabated for months if not years to come. The scope of the damage this law is going do to individuals and families, to say nothing of the general economy, is monumental, and it's too late to do much of anything about it now, other than for individuals and families to protect themselves by totally opting out until the process has played itself out around 2017.

"It is easy to turn an aquarium into fish soup, but hard to turn the fish soup back into an aquarium."-Russian proverb

At this point, no matter what the Obamanistas might try to do, what is going to happen is going to happen. So far, the unintended (?) consequences of Obamacare have mostly been felt by the 10% in the individual insurance market. But about 16% are on Medicare, and 60% are still covered by employer-provided health insurance.

Politically, Obamacare is a brand new disaster for tens of thousands of new people every single day. The Republicans need to keep hammering on this.

(It's taken since WW2, when health insurance began to be provided as an employment benefit, for health insurance to evolve into the CF of Obamacare. 2017 might be a little on the optimistic side.)


54 posted on 11/22/2013 4:34:36 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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