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Supreme Court to take up Obamacare contraception case
cnn.com ^ | November 26, 2013 | Bill Mears

Posted on 11/26/2013 9:07:36 AM PST by John W

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday accepted an Obamacare law appeal over contraception coverage.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; hobbylobby; obamacare; scotus
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1 posted on 11/26/2013 9:07:36 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

5-4 that Ann Dunham should have used some.


2 posted on 11/26/2013 9:08:29 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: John W

My guess…..Roberts is soooo embarrassed that he’ll vote unconstitutional at ANY chance….no matter how thin.


3 posted on 11/26/2013 9:11:07 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: John W

Let me guess...it’s really just a “tax.”


4 posted on 11/26/2013 9:11:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: John W

Two cases, one of them is Hobby Lobby.


5 posted on 11/26/2013 9:11:54 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: John W

Please tell me that there’s a lawsuit challenging one of the most expensive aspects of the ObamaCare laws, that of requiring maternity and pre-natal care on all insurance policies..


6 posted on 11/26/2013 9:11:55 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Genoa

Ok....since their is no sever ability, does SCOTUS actually have a chance to strike the whole law down? I know I’m getting my hopes up. Just askin’


7 posted on 11/26/2013 9:12:57 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: John W

8 posted on 11/26/2013 9:13:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: DCBryan1
since their[sic] is no sever ability

Oh, one of those rascals will find severability, and rename it.

9 posted on 11/26/2013 9:15:06 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

dang Ipad auto correct.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 9:17:27 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

I think there unfortunately is precedent for a law without a severability clause being allowed to stand even after a portion of it was overturned. However, I don’t know the details, and possibly it was an entirely different situation.

This whole law is probably riddled with technical flaws, since it was inserted in the shell of a perfectly innocuous, short bill sent up by Congress (requesting something like an extension of some VA or military benefit, IIRC). The earlier language of the bill, except for the preamble, was simply removed and the Dems stuffed 2000 incoherent pages of garbage into it and passed it. On Christmas Eve. Hard to believe that’s legal, but it is.


11 posted on 11/26/2013 9:20:27 AM PST by livius
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To: John W

Chief Injustice Roberts will call a “Mulligan” on ObamaCare.


12 posted on 11/26/2013 9:22:36 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Please, I’m just having my morning coffee!


13 posted on 11/26/2013 9:29:18 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SecondAmendment

Last time was a slam dunk but ol Roberts changed it to a tax. I don’t trust anything that guy does at this point.


14 posted on 11/26/2013 9:29:32 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: livius

This is out there, I know, but maybe Democrats will apply pressure for a finding for the appellants, then use the severability clause as an excuse to kill the law that is killing their party. They could go back to using the lack of socialized medicine as a campaign issue.


15 posted on 11/26/2013 9:34:31 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Like Johnny Cash said....”One Piece At A Time”.


16 posted on 11/26/2013 9:34:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: Jeff Chandler

Do you trust this man after he already screwed us once?


17 posted on 11/26/2013 9:43:02 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Venturer

>Do you trust this man after he already screwed us once?

Isn’t this why we need abortion?


18 posted on 11/26/2013 9:46:16 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“...Roberts is soooo embarrassed that he’ll vote unconstitutional at ANY chance….no matter how thin.”

I just saw this news over at Ace of Spades HQ. Ace thinks like you do, although he’s less optimistic. He calls it his “dream” rather than a guess.

He also says that these conscience cases are about contraception which is so cheap as to be trivial; but isn’t it also about abortion and perhaps other issues?


19 posted on 11/26/2013 9:48:15 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Yogafist

“They could go back to using the lack of socialized medicine as a campaign issue.”

Oh how they must long for those days.

Obama was so much worse than I ever imagined he could be; but this law is indescribably, incalculably worse than I ever imagined.


20 posted on 11/26/2013 9:51:38 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ann Dunham had an abortion, what we have in so called leadership is the afterbirth!


21 posted on 11/26/2013 10:03:43 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: DCBryan1

Severability is not an issue. The contraception mandate is not in the law. It is in the regulations promulgated under the law.

Regulation can be declared unconstitutional. Then it’s back to the drawing board for the regulators.


22 posted on 11/26/2013 10:14:05 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No, he knows that the wrath of the left is far more savage than the wrath of the right, so he’ll reaffirm his first opinion.


23 posted on 11/26/2013 10:27:03 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

“Last time was a slam dunk but ol Roberts changed it to a tax.”

Right. And many here on FR tried their best to spin it as ‘brilliant’ on Roberts’ part. The implication being that such a sly move somehow will result in 0care going the wa of the Smith-Corona typewriter.

We all know the rest of the story.


24 posted on 11/26/2013 10:30:16 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

My guess....Roberts will say he and his wife wouldn’t have any kids if their mother would have had birth control. But he’s sure she would have made the right “choice” and he believes all women should have a “choice”.


25 posted on 11/26/2013 10:31:08 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I think you underestimate the arrogance of men in robes.
Embarrassed? I doubt it.


26 posted on 11/26/2013 10:56:05 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: kingu

that is a good challenge to be made.


27 posted on 11/26/2013 10:56:36 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

Well, the one way to shame an arrogant person is for them to be exposed as stupid, and that’s why I think Roberts wants this thing gone….


28 posted on 11/26/2013 11:05:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: John W

Is chief Justice John ‘Turncoat’ Roberts still on the court?


29 posted on 11/26/2013 11:09:49 AM PST by rawhide
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To: BenLurkin

“Let me guess...it’s really just a “tax.”

Probably more like “the government has God given rights
too”.


30 posted on 11/26/2013 11:17:34 AM PST by Slambat
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Roberts is soooo embarrassed”

That jacka$$ is about as embarrassed as Obama. He’s in on
the coups d’état.


31 posted on 11/26/2013 11:20:15 AM PST by Slambat
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To: John W

How about we make contraceptives MANDATORY for anyone on the government teat. It would cost much less than the trillions of tax dollars taken from us to provide for the moochers. Add a huge fine for anyone making babies while on taxpayer life support.


32 posted on 11/26/2013 11:21:00 AM PST by soycd
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33 posted on 11/26/2013 11:22:00 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BenLurkin
Let me guess...it’s really just a “tax.”

And...It's "settled law"

34 posted on 11/26/2013 11:26:13 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: livius

I think if you read the opinion correctly, it was never ruled constitutional.

Part of it WAS in fact ruled unconstitutional, the part about the Medicaid funding.

The individual mandate part, well, the opinion basically says “Congress CAN do this if they call it a tax...”

But no where did the court acknowledge or deem that Congress HAD done it under their power to tax.

The first person who gets charged with a penalty is on the fast-track to take it back to SCOTUS!

And at that point, it WOULD be ruled unconstitutional - there’s no way around it.


35 posted on 11/26/2013 11:28:28 AM PST by djf (Global warming is turning out to be a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: Slambat

the inside conspiracy theory is safe internet fodder….but it’s almost NEVER the answer.


36 posted on 11/26/2013 11:30:04 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: John W

Time for Bambino to call the NSA and dust off Robert’s dirt....


37 posted on 11/26/2013 11:36:51 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: John W

I’ve never personally thought the First Amendment was Constitutional.


38 posted on 11/26/2013 11:47:30 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Jeff Chandler

The caption should read: How to fool George Walker Bush


39 posted on 11/26/2013 12:24:31 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: John W; a fool in paradise

“How are your adopted Irish kids doing, Mr Chief Justice?”


40 posted on 11/26/2013 12:26:32 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: John W
So has the Liberal Messiah sent anyone to talk to Chief Justice Roberts?
41 posted on 11/26/2013 12:53:51 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Where’s the Barf Alert!!!


42 posted on 11/26/2013 12:59:48 PM PST by bkopto
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Roberts will rule again with the fascists and take away more of our liberty.


43 posted on 11/26/2013 1:32:29 PM PST by stockpirate (It appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing......)
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To: Jeff Chandler

thx for posting a picture of the fascist homo....Roberts


44 posted on 11/26/2013 1:33:33 PM PST by stockpirate (It appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing......)
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To: DCBryan1
Ok....since their is no sever ability, does SCOTUS actually have a chance to strike the whole law down?

My question as well. Since the "individual TAX (mandate)" was an integral, explicit part of the law, striking that down should have invalidated the entire law. The contraception mandate, however, seems more like an implementation decision not explicitly mentioned in the law, and can probably be struck down without invalidating the entire law (damn it!!!)

Just my take.

45 posted on 11/26/2013 1:46:34 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Revolting cat!
“How are your adopted Irish kids doing, Mr Chief Justice?”

And then, "It would be ashamed if something were to 'happen' to them."

46 posted on 11/26/2013 1:51:53 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

He’ll find it unconstitutional only if he’s signing onto a minority opinion. If there’s five votes to uphold without him, you can bet he will safely dissent. He’s a weasel.


47 posted on 11/26/2013 2:17:14 PM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: John W

Why would any conservative want anything to go to the US Communist supreme court in this day and age. It has been almost fully infiltrated by Godless forces of evil that are hostile to the USA. And Roberts is the Two Horned leader carrying the pitch fork of doom.

Cleaning out the court is far more important that cleaning out congress. The court has far more power. And that is why it was infiltrated.


48 posted on 11/26/2013 2:40:40 PM PST by Revel
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To: cdcdawg

I think you are misreading him on this, and the rest of the court too.


49 posted on 11/26/2013 2:57:31 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Harriet Myers would have been better than Roberts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Miers

We have a good judge with Alito. Myers could have been brought up again.

A man with cute kids running around in their Buster Brown's doesn't make a good judge.

50 posted on 11/26/2013 3:01:18 PM PST by Bronzy
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