Skip to comments.Man Entering Homes & Changing Locks Claiming Legal Ownership (video)
Posted on 11/27/2013 6:30:35 PM PST by Sheapdog
BUTLER COUNTY, OH - A Ohio family is out in the cold after coming home from caring for a sick family member they found that the locks on their house had changed and all their property missing. Robert Carr has been going around filing quiet title documents after learning about people that are abandoning their homes. Carr has been doing this to over a dozen homes, even filing seven cases in one day.
Carr sends teams of people out to locate homes that are empty at the time and then has them go in and change the locks. I have a team of people who go out and I say make sure the house is empty. If its empty, change the locks, said Carr. When you abandon a property, bam, walk away from it, I aint never coming back. I dont want nothing to do with it, right? Somebody can come in, Oh, mine, Carr says.
FBI agents investigating the activity said theyve heard of this before. Special Agent Kevin Cornelius said, Theyll come together as groups to receive training, how to conduct some of these schemes from a financial standpoint, to understand what they consider the common law and how they can use that common law for their sovereign purposes. Im not familiar (with) any cases where its held up in court. I think that it holds up the process of the courts decision.
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I’d shoot the bastid.
This guy has done this to like a dozen people! Maybe he steals everything and then takes over the house! How is this possible in America! The courts and the system are to some degree on this f-ers side.
I don’t know about Ohio, but here in Texas it is commonly referred to as “burglary of a habitation” and punishable by 10 years in prison if you don’t get shot.
Why aren't these people automatically arrested when they appear in court? They are basically admitting they are thieves!
In Minnesota he would need to occupy it uninterrupted for 15 years to have a chance at it under the adverse possession laws. He would be trespassing, and he would be guilty of theft of the possessions therein, at a minimum.
There are those that believe that since all laws are unjust, they needn’t follow any of them, but of course they make up their own laws to suit themselves.
So if I and another person or to decide what I think is common law this has standing in a US court? That seems to be what this FBI guy is implying? A few people can now just be a community and a law unto itself? confused? Oh, those bees YT’s laws.
And how, exactly, do they "make sure the house is empty?" Do they steal all the possessions, and then, "Yep, it's empty!"? Criminal. Because the people in the article said they came back "to find all their possessions missing."
Sounds like what the leftists have done to America.
Clears up a lot.
If you find your locks changed and it is your house and you live there, you simply break in to your own house and change them back, after calling the cops of course, to report the vandalism.
It’s a sob story.
The home is being foreclosed on. These guys are not taking the home from the person that lives there. They are trying to take the home from the bank that is foreclosing and, in the process, effectively evicting the people.
It’s sleazy, but not as sleazy as it sounds.
How long was this family gone ???
In Oct I went to Europe for a month..
When I left my house was full of furniture, possessions, the electric amnd water and phone connected etc..
When I got back last week I could have found all my stuff stolen and the locks changed and someone else owning my house ???
what would have happened next if upon discovering I was dispossed, if I had broken a window, got inside, called a lock changer, and taken back my house ???
who would be the criminal ???
Bastard needs a new free (for him) home: Levenworth.
PS In Texas, if I find them in my home at night, I can legally kill them. Hope it happens to them.
12 gauge slugs should expedite eviction.
Some people need killing.
So what if you go to work in the morning and when you come home the locks are changed and the house is empty ?
Yes, it is.
And bill his family for the new carpet.
Yes it is.
In Ohio we have “Castle Doctrine” and if I were ever to find some asshole had done this I`d pick his lock or drill it out, replace it with my new lock, call the police to report the burglary, then wait for the creep to show up. When he tries to break in again I`d shoot him dead under Ohio`s Castle Doctrine as a home intruder.
Locate the asshole. Administer a Copper coated Lead enema the and problem is solved, aside from our hostile government
Its called adverse possession and isn’t as simple as changing the locks. Changing the locks will get you shot or jailed for a felony if you’re lucky.
If the foreclosure is in process then the home belongs to the people, not the bank. The bank simply has a lien.
Its even more sleazy then it sounds.
I hate to say it, but yeah, this guy’s going to get Second Amendment’ed if he keeps it up.
In California ALL property transfers have to be handled on paper in specific formats. . . no just seizing of properties, even by lien holders. Titles have to be clear. This would NOT stand up in any court. There is a legal title that involves the lien holders and someone who merely changes the locks and squats cannot insert himself I between the owner and the lien holder because he thinks the property seems to be “vacant.”
It seems at least twice times a day now I read something and say, “Another good reason I moved to small town in the sticks where no one bothers with such antics.”
It’s amazing how many potential problems I don’t have to think about.
Yup. I live in a vast metropolis of about 150.
You may hate to say it, but it doesn't mean you can't look forward to it.
It puts the buyer in a position of paying for a house they can’t live in while some scumbag occupies it. The bank isn’t getting paid and the buyer’s credit is screwed if he walks away.
In the end it costs all of us in the form of higher rates and court costs.
More BS from another Marxist/libertine whoresite.
Oh, look. You, as a fake libertarian, can go trespass onto private property and sit your thieving Marxist ass down on the couch, claiming ownership because you set your ass down on someone’s property.
This is so stupid.
Is this someone operating on the “Freeman on the land” bs that’s on the web?
I think you’ve told us quite a bit about your morality.
The more common scenario that I’ve seen has involved crooks like this then renting out the property to innocent third parties, and then collecting the rent until those innocent victims can be evicted by the owner.
Here are particulars:Adverse possession rules are specific for a reason. As the Texas Supreme Court has stated, the adverse possession "doctrine itself is a harsh one, taking real estate from a record owner without express consent or compensation." Tran v. Macha, 213 W.W.3d 913, 914 (Tex. 2006). The statute sets forth rules and conditions under which the doctrine applies, and these must be conclusively met. Close enough is not good enough. In the event adverse possession is litigated, all issues become questions of fact to be decided by the court.
Hmmm...I found out recently that my late father had been paying the property taxes on 10 vacant acres that has a title in someone else’s name. Dad purchased the property 40-years ago.
I live a thousand miles away and have to take action. But what kind of action? Do you know?
Can I go to a title company and will they straighten it out?
I have no bill of sale for real property from 40-years ago, except for evidence we’ve been paying the property taxes.
Did your wife hire the moving van?
That’s because TX is one of the few remaining bastions of sanity in America.
In ME, that guy would just disappear in the middle of the night.
NOtice the guy’s color.....remember what the AG said...
Most places, you need to pay taxes on it for X amount of time and also utilize it...
It sounds to me that your dad may have bought the acreage on a contract for deed but neglected to record the deed when he finished paying for it. In that type of sale, the original owner holds the title until the contract is completed, I.e., paid off, then the deed is transferred. You need to talk to an attorney who specializes in real estate in that state.
Thanks for the info.
Someone needs to publish Carrs residence address. Should be in the court records.....
Drill out his lock, wait for his thugs to come back and tell them they have two choices: cough up the cost of a lock and leave under their own power or be shot as intruders.
He’s only doing the job the banks were planning to do. He just got there first. ;-)
Its even more sleazy then it sounds.
The right way is to identify a house that is currently in the foreclosure process and the people have moved out... find the owner , offer them a small amount as “cash for keys” and quit claim the title to yourself ,,, THEN move in, take over the foreclosure proceedings by filing a change of party-defendant and file quiet title ,, in 99% of the cases the foreclosing bank (if the loan was issued between 1998 and 2008) cannot show ownership as evidenced by any of their accounting.
The difference being the banks have a legal and moral right to do it. He doesn’t
Actually the banks DON'T have a right to the property , it has lost it's status as the security/colatteral due to the banks illegal actions ,, please read the $13B JPM/Chase settlement (for FRAUD) documents for clarification ... also any loan that went through Ginnie Mae cannot be legally foreclosed upon and that's 90%+ of them ...
Direct from the SEC .. http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1109651/000087562606001708/b485pos.txt
Ginnie Maes are backed by the aggregate indebtedness secured by the underlying FHA-insured, FMHA-insured or VA-guaranteed mortgages and, except to the extent of funds received by the issuers on account of such mortgages, Ginnie Maes do not constitute a liability of nor evidence any recourse against such issuers, but recourse thereon is solely against GNMA. Holders of Ginnie Maes (such as the Trusts) have no security interest in or lien on the underlying mortgages.