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U.S. Advises Commercial Jets to Honor Chinaís Rules
The New York Times ^ | Friday, November 29, 2013 | Peter Baker and Jane Perlez

Posted on 11/29/2013 5:00:54 PM PST by kristinn

After an internal debate, the Obama administration has decided to tell American commercial airlines to comply with China's demands to be notified of any flights through a broad swath of international airspace that it has claimed as an air defense zone, officials said Friday.

Even as the United States continued to send military planes into the zone in defiance of China's declaration, officials said they expected civilian planes to go along with Beijing's new demands out of an abundance of caution. Officials said they were worried about an accident or unintended confrontation that could endanger civilian passengers.

The administration’s decision came hours after China said it had scrambled fighter jets for the first time since declaring the zone last week, a move that was seen by Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and the United States as provocative.

The caution reflected in the administration’s decision contrasted with that by Japan's government, which told its civilian airlines not to abide by the Chinese rules after they initially began to voluntarily comply.

China’s assertion of jurisdiction over the airspace, designed to bolster its claim to islands administered by Japan, is not recognized by any of the major powers in the region but the American decision may irritate Tokyo.

Earlier Friday, in announcing it had scrambled jets, China said it had identified two American surveillance planes and 10 Japanese aircraft in its newly declared air defense zone

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allthis4a; blinked; capitulated; caved; chamberlain; chickenshit; china; damnfag; japan; korea; obamasfault; obamateur; pansies; petain; philippines; surrendermonkey; taiwan; vietnam
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To: kristinn
Nov 29, 2013 - In the footsteps of the US: Why next man on Moon will be Chinese "A Chinese Long March rocket is scheduled to blast off to the Moon on Sunday evening at about 6pm British time carrying a small robotic rover that will touch down on to the lunar surface in about two weeks’ time – the first soft landing on the Earth’s only natural satellite since 1976.

The take-off from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre in Sichuan Province marks the latest stage in China’s grand ambitions not just to put a man on Moon by the end of the next decade, but to build a permanent lunar base from which it can plan missions to Mars and beyond.

While the United States scales back its grand ideals of re-conquering the Moon, China is forging ahead with a bold three-step programme beginning with the robotic exploration of possible landing sites for the first Chinese astronauts to set foot on lunar soil between 2025 and 2030.

“This launch fits in perfectly with China’s logical development of its capabilities in space,” said science writer and astrophysicist David Whitehouse...

“It is sending astronauts into space to do more complicated things each mission, and each Moon probe builds on the last. They plan to bring them together and it’s very possible the next person to walk on the Moon could be Chinese in 15 years’ time,” Dr Whitehouse said......."

41 posted on 11/30/2013 2:13:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The USA and Japan should use the islands for naval artillery practice. To bad they mothballed the USS Missouri, a cannon platform that could reduce these islands to shore rubble in 3 days.


42 posted on 11/30/2013 2:32:47 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I was being sarcastic.


43 posted on 11/30/2013 3:07:00 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: kristinn

This assertion by China is probably reflective of their observations of American weakness in other areas.

Like its ally Iran, China knows the declining USSA won’t pose much of a threat to their designs on the region.


44 posted on 11/30/2013 3:18:35 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Leaning Right

If Caroline got one of those upbraidings, imagine her response: “We’ll, like, y’know... um... why .. y’know.. can’t you like just GIVE them those.. y’know... islands?”


45 posted on 11/30/2013 3:23:40 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: kristinn

Obama is trying to start a war. That worthless punk is
going to get even more people killed.


46 posted on 11/30/2013 3:30:08 AM PST by Slambat
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To: gaijin

Weakness begets weakness.


47 posted on 11/30/2013 4:09:49 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: kristinn

Well I’m surprised it took this long for Obama to capitulate. I still think China will turn the West Coast to glass once they figure out how to do it without destroying their own economy.


48 posted on 11/30/2013 4:28:04 AM PST by eak3
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To: kristinn

OMG! How am I still capable of being shocked? This is the natural outcome of putting a foreign enemy in the White House.


49 posted on 11/30/2013 4:56:27 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ √ě)
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To: kristinn

Obama bows again and again. The apology tour continues with appeasement, weakness and utter dumbness.


50 posted on 11/30/2013 5:15:40 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: kristinn

In other words, if China shoots down a civilian airliner the US won’t do squat. It’s no surprise. That’s what happens when you borrow money. The one you borrow it from is going to tell you how to spend it.


51 posted on 11/30/2013 5:46:46 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: kristinn

Obama bows again.


52 posted on 11/30/2013 5:58:29 AM PST by Flint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fearless Leader strikes again.

Then again, he has much in common with his ChiCom comrades, so why is this a surprise...


53 posted on 11/30/2013 7:13:08 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: kristinn
I am somewhat ambivalent about this, since I would not wish to see innocent civilians killed.

Still, it strikes me as being most unlikely that China would respond in such a ham-handed manner, thereby creating an international consensus against it.

And there is a certain inconsistency here--a mixed message ("We don't agree with your territorial claims, but we are going to act as if we do") that I find rather disturbing...

54 posted on 11/30/2013 7:29:32 AM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: bestintxas

First Iran now China


China I can understand considering they own us. China stops the money flow and we’re back to the 18th century.


55 posted on 11/30/2013 7:38:46 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

I think it is always a good idea for civilian airliners to ID themselves to anyone who queries them, just for the sake of safety


56 posted on 11/30/2013 7:39:39 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Truth29

A nuclear armed Japan? The hell with that. China taking over Japan would be better than that.


57 posted on 11/30/2013 7:41:51 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Moorings

Wow! Already surrendered! The Chi-coms know who they are dealing with.


China to bammy - “back off or what we do to your economy will make the Great Depression look like boom times.”

China holds all the cards, people.


58 posted on 11/30/2013 7:49:04 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Moorings

Wow! Already surrendered! The Chi-coms know who they are dealing with.


China to bammy - “back off or what we do to your economy will make the Great Depression look like boom times.”

China holds all the cards, people.


59 posted on 11/30/2013 7:49:35 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: kristinn

BARACK FRUITDAY

all this for a damn fag


60 posted on 11/30/2013 8:21:43 AM PST by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett)
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