Initial Police Response In Sandy Hook Shooting Scrutinized

The Courant ^ | November 22, 2013 | Dave Altimari

[Hardastarboard]

The long-awaited release Wednesday of recorded calls for assistance and the background sounds of rifle shots that killed 20 children and six adults may provoke more questions than provide answers on the important issue of the police response.

While I understand that the families of the children were sensitive about the release of the 911 calls, they really are public domain information. Public funds paid for the emergency response infrastructure, the responding officers, their equipment and training.

Given that we all may encounter such a situation, and that these incidents are being used to destroy a fundamental right of self defense, we have every right to know what happened.

[Uncle Chip]

Here are the 911 calls with time stamps:

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/Full-transcript-of-the-Sandy-Hook-911-calls-5036086.php#page-3

CALL 1, 9:35:39, 24 seconds

CALL 2 released on the recording is a duplicate of Call 1.

CALL 3, 9:36:13 a.m., Rick Thorne, acting head custodian, 3 minutes & 52 seconds

CALL 4, 9:37:06, 42 seconds

CALL 5, 9:40:02 a.m., 5 minutes & 22 seconds

CALL 6, at 9:40:20, Rick Thorne, 3 minutes & 24 seconds

CALL 7, 9:43:55 a.m., Rick Thorne, 4 minutes & 10 seconds

Part way through CALL 7 Rick Thorne hears and then sees the officers coming in — which indicate that the Newtown Police entered the building at about 9:45 apparently from the back of the school. A little later entry was made from the front

The Newtown police and their report say they went in first but the state police and their Sandy Hook report say they all went in together when the state police got there at 9:46. Police chiefs report says it was later than 9:46 when they got there.

There is tension between these two agencies trying to take credit but then there is this from the 911 tapes:

Here is the police dispatch to compare to the 911 calls:

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/14/news/doc50cc0897adc1a203744261.txt?viewmode=default

[Uncle Chip]

1] Interview with one of two mothers who witnessed the 8 to 10 kids running down to the firehouse, the Lanza’s Honda with black sweatshirts strewn on the ground, the broken plate glass window at the front door, no police around,
the unusual quiet, then gunshots ring out from inside the school.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbd6qRY358

2] Marilyn Gudsnuk — sees kids running from the school in front of the firehouse, 7 or 8 police cars were going in opposite direction, and then gunshots ring out — probably the same ones that the two other women heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sem3eN_z5nY

Toward the end of Call #3 7 gunshots can be heard. These aren’t the ones the women heard but the shots probably fired in Soto’s room after which the kids made their break for the firehouse.

CALL 3 began at 9:36:13 a.m. with Rick Thorne, acting head custodian, and lasted 3 minutes & 52 seconds meaning that those shots were taking place right at 9:40. Those are the shots after which the 10 kids made their escape.

How long does it take 10 first graders to run a quarter mile???

The next set of gunshots are the ones reported at around 9:46 as LE are entering the school. The 911 calls particularly those of Rick Thorne released thus far all ended before 9:46 — thus those shots are not recorded..

[Carriage Hill]

Have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVRlEe2A94

[Uncle Chip]

The guy is a moron and so is anyone who buys what he is selling.

A facial recognition expert he is not.

He’s saying that these kids aged 5 years in 2 months???

10 kids ran from that first grade classroom and are alive today.

How come they didn’t age 5 years in 2 months???

[Carriage Hill]

Yeah, and one of those girls is over a foot taller than she was 2mos ago, when she was killed. I tried to make facial/feature comparisons, and I can’t match-up anything concrete. He is a moron. Did you read the comments on that page? Absolutely stunning people can’t see thru the BS! I thought I was missing something key there, but I’m glad you agree. There’s no way to pull off something like that.

[Uncle Chip]

I recognize this guy’s voice and he has been putting these things out for almost a year now.

I wish he would step out from behind the curtain and tell us his real name so he can receive the proper laughter.