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Then what were they waiting for, chief???

Your cavalry were certainly in no hurry to enter that building to rescue those children.

Please explain what they were doing for 6 minutes and why when they finally did enter the building they did so from the back of the building -- as far away from the shooter as possible.

1 posted on 12/06/2013 5:09:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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"I think it's pretty tough to second-guess the guys who were there responding to a chaotic scene."

Ummm, no it's not. Kids, school, active shooter. Turn in your badge and get a job tending flowers.

2 posted on 12/06/2013 5:17:54 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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Wow. Dial 911 and die.


3 posted on 12/06/2013 5:21:52 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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I expect they spent the first few minutes coordinating with each other to avoid fratricide and ensure complete coverage to prevent the shooter from escaping and slaughtering defenseless civilians outside of the facility, since several police departments were involved. 7 minutes seems eminently reasonable, especially since every incident location has a different layout.


4 posted on 12/06/2013 5:28:12 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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First Responder to Sandy Hook Slaughter Parked 1/4 Mile from School and Waited for Backup

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3094511/posts

Apparently they were waiting for him to commit suicide before they went in as well but he didn’t oblige them.


5 posted on 12/06/2013 5:29:23 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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What we are running into here are protocols.

There are established protocols that stop emergency responders, and they work a bit like zero tolerance, break the protocols and you are in trouble.

An example An ambulance responds to an overdose, The protocol is to wait for the arrival of police to secure the scene before ambulance personnel are allowed to proceed. So the ambulance sits at a staging area and waits for the police while someone who took too many pills is inside. without treatment.

The protocols are set up for the protection of the responder, but do not have clauses to provide for different situations.
I feel that the first police on the scene were doing what their protocols called for, they waited for backup and for the scene to be made as secure as possible. In the meantime people are inside dying, and one brave officer could have saved many lives. I am not totally against protocols, but like all plans they do not provide for circumstances.

But what the heck everyone who arrived went home safe.

Protocols save responders lives I suppose, but when you take a job as Firefighter or police officer you have to realize that sometimes you have to place your life in danger to protect those you are sworn to protect. You have to assess the situation on your own and do what is necessary. Zero tolerance protocols be damned.


6 posted on 12/06/2013 5:33:02 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Uncle Chip

They all went home safe for their families.

/s


8 posted on 12/06/2013 5:51:34 AM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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Taxpayers pay an ever increasing amount of money to law enforcement to “protect and serve”. We also pay our soldiers to protect our liberties.

The soldier is willing and able to put themselves into the field of fire to save others or win the battle. Law enforcement stays back in staging area until the violence has subsided.

The soldiers’ bodies are beaten and broken with the constant demands of training. They deploy frequently. They return home with PTSD, healed fractures, battered backs. They fight through injury, adverse conditions, bad weather, and people shooting at them.

Law enforcement gets fat. They seldom train for conflict. If they get a little injury they go on disability.

They both get to retire typically after 20 years. The soldier gets half his base pay average over the past 3 years (no special pays or anything counts). Law enforcement typically gets about 80% of their total earnings over the last 3 years.

Go figure...


10 posted on 12/06/2013 5:57:22 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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1st officer parked a 1/4 mile from school to await orders? That is a cowardly disgrace! Once the report of shooting in the school came in it was incumbent on the police to enter the school. Real cops are trained for this....the bottom line is how teachers and children were slaughtered while the cops set up a perimeter, donned their riot gear and walked to the school.


16 posted on 12/06/2013 6:40:24 AM PST by kenmcg
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Have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVRlEe2A94


24 posted on 12/13/2013 11:05:54 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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