Posted on 12/06/2013 10:38:02 AM PST by forty_years
When you outlaw plastic guns, only outlaws (and terrorists) will have them.
Absolutely correct and you and I know that, Jim. Sadly, the rest of the country doesn’t. The bill isn’t an issue for the law abiding as you and I aren’t going to not declare our weapon when we travel via plane.
The whole point of this is political cover. Don’t give the Dems anything to hold on to. Let them continue to slide due to Democratcare (we need to stop calling it Obamacare - they all voted for it).
Boehner is doing the right thing here, protecting the brand so we can win elections, take over the Senate, strengthen the House and in 2016 regain the Presidency and undo the damage. Only winning counts. This bill is good strategy and leaves the Democrats in a lose/lose position.
Schumer’s amendments to the bill will be painted as radical by the NRA which will only hurt Dems worse. It’s brilliant. Let’s just follow the plan and win.
At the same time, we need to be on guard for treachery. This isn’t it.
Boehner is an idiot.
Ask ObamaCare.
Not if your job is herding sheep and maintaining a GOP majority. What exactly makes him an idiot?
Another reason I quit the NRA
like pols who claim to want to shrink government and then get elected and vote to only slow the rate of growth.
You mean besides being an open borders, homo rights supporting, non-principled surrender monkey and all around liberal GOP-e RINO. Ain’t that enough.
“By the way, the 2nd Amendment COVERS guns made of ANY material - I dont see anything in it to the contrary!”
The 2nd amendment doesn’t mention guns, it says arms. Therefore we have the same rights to own RPG’s and FIM-92 Stinger missiles as we do to own a single shot .22 rifle, at least, under the constitution. Which, of course, is being ignored or diluted by even the NRA and other supposed supporters of the 2nd amendment. Let’s quit the defeatist notion that 2nd amendment rights means fighting to own automatic rifles, and demand the rights granted by the 2nd amendment. The right to ALL arms, which we will need to fight a corrupt and tyrannical government.
By the way, his job is to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God. And he’s a total failure in that regard. The man has never met a founding or constitutional principle that he’s not willing to betray in an attempt to keep him and his statist/RINO colleagues in power.
Amen. That’s what it’s all about.
central casting
Maybe next weekend - Part II of "The Hobbit" is opening.
Unobtainium
Unfortunately, thanks in large part to the idiots in the Congressional District that re-elected Boehner ......
I'll tell you what there ought to be this weekend: mass downloads of Defense Dist's plastic gun blueprints.
Time for civil disobedience: massive downloads and massive distribution through bit torrent!
He’s what you’re going to get as a national coalition leader. The House GOP is more conservative than its been in a generation or two. That Boehner got reelected tells you that he has some skills and is valuable politically. Being Speaker of the House isn’t simple. You represent a diverse coalition and an even wider base of supporters, none of whom necessarily see eye to eye.
We’re not a nation of FReepers. It’s easy for us to agree 95% on everything and you still find long, long threads with FReepers debating all kinds of issues. Humans are political by nature. It takes a good sense of the possible to make things happen. We can wish for things, work for things and make things happen. Think of that as a Venn diagram of ever shrinking choices/opportunities.
There aren’t enough conservative votes to take back America today. There are enough conservative/moderate votes to begin to take back America today. We need to play it smart.
What the House GOP did was keep the focus on failure, abject failure via the Democratic Party. Not voting to continue this very “reasonable” bill (that’s how the media would carry it and the LIVs would hear it) would just take the heat off of Democratcare and the failure of the Democrats to properly run the country. Why do that?
I actually think the Framers had in mind any small arms available to the government’s men, e.g. flame throwers, machine guns, anti-tank guns, grenades, etc., but do you really think we could cobble together enough votes right now to get all the infringements on the 2nd removed?
You fight with the army you have. Do I wish we had a Constitutionally minded nation with a like-minded POTUS, SCOTUS, Senate and House? Absolutely, but we’re not going to get there by losing elections.
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