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The Effects Of Environmentalist and Climate Alarmist Crying Wolf Begin To Appear
Watts Up With That ^ | December 7, 2013 | By Dr. Tim Ball

Posted on 12/08/2013 2:18:43 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

The cover story of the November 25, 2013 Canadian weekly magazine Macleans pictures self-appointed Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki.

The caption reads, “Environmentalism Has Failed--David Suzuki loses faith in the cause of his lifetime.”

Suzuki doesn’t realize he‘s the cause of the failure as a major player in the group who exploited environmentalism and climate for a political agenda. Initially most listened and tried to accommodate, but gradually the lies, deceptions and propaganda were exposed. The age of eco-bullying is ending. Typically Suzuki blamed others for the damage to the environment and climate but now he blames them for not listening to him. He forgets that when you point a finger at someone three are pointing back at you.

Environmentalism was what academics call a paradigm shift, which Thomas Kuhn defines as “a fundamental change in approach or underlying assumptions.” It was a necessary new paradigm. Everybody accepts the general notion it is foolish to soil your own nest and most were prepared to participate. Most were not sure what it entailed or how far it should go. Extremists grab all new paradigms for their agenda but then define the limits for the majority by pushing beyond the limits of the idea. Environmentalism and the subset climate are at that stage pushed there by extremists like Suzuki. Instead of admitting the science is wrong they double down and make increasingly extreme statements, just like the IPCC. It underscores the political rather than the scientific agenda. For example, Suzuki, apparently frustrated that politicians were not listening to his demands for action on climate change said they should be jailed. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Editorial
KEYWORDS: canada; climatechangefraud; davidsuzuki

1 posted on 12/08/2013 2:18:43 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

People catch on slow, but they WILL catch on.
The Marxist media and Marxist education are the greatest obstruction to western civilization.


2 posted on 12/08/2013 2:23:20 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Brad from Tennessee
...the group who exploited environmentalism and climate for a political agenda.

More accurately: ...the group who exploited environmentalism and climate for a political agenda and money.

Follow the money.

3 posted on 12/08/2013 2:34:40 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
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To: BlessedBeGod

I remember when mornings news shows started doing whole weeks of “green” shows. Pushing it hard!


4 posted on 12/08/2013 2:48:35 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: AlexW
[The Marxist media and Marxist education are the greatest obstruction to western civilization.]

They are also more dangerous than any external enemy. The Left seized on environmentalism in the 1970’s as the greatest tool for instituting socialism in the U.S.

5 posted on 12/08/2013 2:54:04 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
A former Soviet citizen explained about the purpose of the daily blasting of communist propaganda.

"They" don't expect you to believe what you are being told, repeatedly. The more absurd the daily blasts, the better.

The repetitions are meant to wear down everyone's hope of ever having any small bit of honest truth prevail in daily life. The purpose is to instill hopelessness, and that part works on the masses. Most people become weary trying to argue the obvious; and eventually they cave in. They lose hope of ever hearing or being able to discuss the smallest bits of truth in daily life, and eventually they start repeating what they know in their hearts are blatant lies.

This is the great evil of totalitarianism: the destruction of the natural human search for truth, and the natural human resistance to blatant lies.

Liberal propaganda works like this; religious propaganda works like this; "... every form of tyranny over the mind of man" works like this.

6 posted on 12/08/2013 3:09:55 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Up in the morning
out on a job
work like the devil for my pay
But the lucky ole sun
roars around the heavens all day.....

Guess he doesn’t get out much ! Because if he did all he’d have to do is look up and find the cause..


7 posted on 12/08/2013 3:17:41 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Suzuki has lost it because he didn’t realize the economic and financial gains that AlGore made. Sour grapes. He should be thankful the the bulk of the planet doesn’t hold him in elevated douchebag status.


8 posted on 12/08/2013 3:37:05 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The man-made, global warming fraud being exposed is causing warmists/leftists nightmares. They though they had a foolproof plan to control all humans. A one-world government was in sight with them in charge. Now it’s all crumbling. Don’t expect Al Gore and the other fraudsters to give up their stolen dough. That they’ll keep.


9 posted on 12/08/2013 3:39:31 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Spot on. The KGB helped fund them. That’s why it’s ironic to see Greenpeace detained by the Russians. It comes home to roost.


10 posted on 12/08/2013 3:57:55 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“They are also more dangerous than any external enemy.”
_______________________________________
Exactly...It is why America is being destroyed.
I catch a lot of crap for not being there to suffer, but as I have said many times...I did not leave America, America left me.
For those that can not or will not lead their own lives, I am sorry. I am not into civil wars, as nobody wins.


11 posted on 12/08/2013 3:58:56 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Suzuki abandoned his academic career in genetics decades ago explaining why in a 1999 Seattle speech. His concerns related to the internment of his Japanese Canadian family during WWII. Here are his words:

There is always, always some form of real or imagined victim status behind these people. Damage the scientific method because you're butt-hurt. Ruin economies and drive people into serfdom because you feel some aggrieved status. I hope, someday, that your name is drug so far into the mud that nothing will clean it.
12 posted on 12/08/2013 4:22:51 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So when does the Supreme Court reverse it’s ruling on CO2?


13 posted on 12/08/2013 4:27:17 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: meadsjn

Good quote.


14 posted on 12/08/2013 4:27:57 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Some good news and bad news:

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/101613-675442-supreme-court-will-review-epa-carbon-rules.htm


15 posted on 12/08/2013 4:36:40 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
So when does the Supreme Court reverse it’s ruling on CO2?

Like Congress, the Supreme Court doesn't have time to be bothered with commoners' concerns.

16 posted on 12/08/2013 4:37:08 AM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
So when does the Supreme Court reverse it’s ruling on CO2?

They won't.

They did not rule that CO2 was a pollutant.

They ruled that a law granting the EPA the authority to declare that was constitutional.

Now, I believe, and with good reason, that delegating some of the "all legislative powers herein granted" to unelected bureaucrats is itself unconstitutional, but if the Supremes agreed with THAT, most of FedGov would shut down.

Not that that's a bad thing...

17 posted on 12/08/2013 4:54:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
As always, results matter.

The left's willingness to abandon the truth to gain their political ends is destroying America. Truth matters as well.

18 posted on 12/08/2013 4:56:10 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: meadsjn

[This is the great evil of totalitarianism: the destruction of the natural human search for truth, and the natural human resistance to blatant lies.]

I don’t know where it begins but for me it begins with “political correctness” of which a graphic metaphor might be the three deliberately blind, deaf and dumb monkeys.


19 posted on 12/08/2013 4:58:32 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The comments and claims become more extreme, but achieve the opposite of their goal. It is necessary to consider the further negative effects of their exploitation and deceptions. What is the damage to the credibility of science? Can we pursue environmentalism with rational, science based, prioritized policies?

I would say the damage to science is great. Non-scientists tend to lump together all science, unaware that whatever happens in climate science has nothing to do with life science, physics, astronomy, geology, etc. The assumption is often that because one (small) group of scientists are behaving a certain way, all scientists behave that way.

The truth is that not even all climate scientists are on the doom-and-gloom bandwagon. I saw an article a couple of days ago about a poll showing that over 60% of climatologists and atmospheric scientists have no opinion on man-made global warming.

The most radical "environmentalists" are not even scientists. They are the ones who use the environment as a bludgeon to try to force all of us into their dysfunctional utopia. Because of them, some people question the integrity of all scientists.

The answer to the ending question in the excerpt is yes. It most certainly is possible to develop and implement evidence-based solutions to legitimate environmental problems, and we have been doing that for a long time. The "green" radicals hinder evidence-finding while helping nothing.

20 posted on 12/08/2013 4:58:52 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Brad from Tennessee.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 5:02:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: meadsjn

Meadsjn,
You just articulated exactly what’s happening right here at home. Scandal upon scandal, Fast & Furious, Benghazi,IRS, EPA, NSA, Obamacare, Solyndra, you name it—and no one has faced the consequences. Meantime, Conservatives and the Tea Party are branded anarchists and compared to suicide bombers—all this as they continue to work, pay their taxes and obey the laws of the land. The end result—a hopelessness that nothing can be done...I’ve had two friends say to me, what can be done?
What’s the use.

I told them we’re the majority in the country. Let’s start by not voting for the thieves in office and for the party best at robbing us blind. The vested interests will always vote for the robbers, but there’s more of us than them...but not by much! At least young people, jobless, with debt and now asked to pay for Ovamacare when they can’t afford to move out of their parents home, are seeing the cost of a socialist agenda.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 5:14:46 AM PST by samsmom
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To: meadsjn

Liberal propaganda works like this; religious propaganda works like this; “... every form of tyranny over the mind of man” works like this.


Exactly right!

If you say it loud enough and long enough it becomes the truth. Our public school system is a perfect example of this.


23 posted on 12/08/2013 5:19:29 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: AlexW

Ultimately, you’re right that TRUTH will out, but it is SO painful to have to fight tooth and nail to get past the crap that spews from the Marxist project.


24 posted on 12/08/2013 5:33:50 AM PST by GEC (Obamacare is the #MostEpicFailEver)
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To: meadsjn

Great post, except for the notion that religion is about stifling the search for truth. Yes there are some, such as Islam, that only require that you “submit”, but most are man’s attempt to understand truths that are not easily visible in this world.


25 posted on 12/08/2013 5:51:52 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SC_Pete
The KGB helped fund them. That’s why it’s ironic to see Greenpeace detained by the Russians.

That's why we call them the Watermelon Party.

26 posted on 12/08/2013 5:56:46 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: samsmom

The elections only need to be controlled in specific precincts in a few key states. More of us as individual voters vs. more control by them of the electoral elements needed to keep the oppressors in power.


27 posted on 12/08/2013 6:17:17 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: BlessedBeGod

Yes! These globull warmists may not have all been after massive riches like algore, but they sure wanted to insure their cushy lifelong grants and “easy” chairs in academia.

By the way, anyone hear anything recent on our old pal algore? Maybe he was smart enough to read the globull warming writing on the wall and is content with enough of our money, not all as was his original plan.


28 posted on 12/08/2013 6:21:58 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: meadsjn

Excellent!
It is equally amazing that the mass of MSM, who must consist of some who truly care for America, fell in line with pushing the propaganda. The left, no matter where, does believe “the end justifies the means”.

Even so early in the day, you may have just written “Post of the Day”.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 6:31:24 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
There are people who still believe this crap. I have a friend who was very caught up in “global warming”, then she went right along when it changed to “climate change”. Now she will start to tell me about a violent storm that occurred someplace. That's when I either change the subject or start telling her about a violent storm I remember from 30-40 or 50 years ago. I love to bring up the Galveston hurricane of 1900 because my grandfather told us so much about it.
30 posted on 12/08/2013 6:38:45 AM PST by Ditter
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To: meadsjn

Damn good point.


31 posted on 12/08/2013 7:04:29 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The age of eco-bullying is ending. Typically Suzuki blamed others for the damage to the environment and climate but now he blames them for not listening to him.

To err is human, to blame others is even more human.

32 posted on 12/08/2013 7:36:37 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: samsmom; meadsjn; reformedliberal
At least young people, jobless, with debt and now asked to pay for Ovamacare when they can’t afford to move out of their parents home, are seeing the cost of a socialist agenda.

The young can not avoid seeing the cost of the socialist agenda but the real question is do they blame the socialism so active in our country as the culprit?

The young have for the most part been indoctrinated in socialism from the earliest age. They have been taught the idealism of Marxist ideology with little if any counter point of capitalism and free market thought.

How many are capable of seeing that government intervention in the market place and overreaching governmental regulation have all but destroyed the economy of this once thriving economic power house of free market capitalism.

How many can understand that the government has sold out their future for an unachievable egalitarian Utopia future.

Only those that are capable of seeing beyond the lies that their academicians told them, only those that can still question the authorities they have labored under in their school years will be able see the truth that the man behind the curtain is a fraud. The Great and Powerful Oz of socialism is in reality an Evil and Deceitful seeker of power willing to what ever is necessary to wield ultimate political power over the masses.

33 posted on 12/08/2013 7:46:12 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Ditter

One has to believe in Global Warming, along with Global Cooling. The proof? Well ... how did the ice sheets get in North America (”global cooling)? And then, how did the ice sheets melt (global warming)?

And also during those times the oceans lowered and they rose.

SO ... Global Warming and Global Cooling is really beyond disputing that it DOES OCCUR.

HOWEVER what is not shown to be true is “Anthropogenic Global Warming.”


34 posted on 12/08/2013 8:28:11 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: AlexW

****People catch on slow, but they WILL catch on.***

This is why they must never let a good crisis go to waste.

Pass a bad law in the heat of passion, repent while shackled to new chains.

1968 Gun control act comes to mind, along with Obamacare and lots of other travesties like the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 8:42:18 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When are stories like this going to appear in the US media?


36 posted on 12/08/2013 8:44:35 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Star Traveler
Of course that is what I told my NYT’s reading friend. The earth warms and it cools and always has. She has been Goreilized into believing that SUV’s have done it.

She is from Holland and I asked her how did the Medieval Warm Period happen. That's when she changed the subject.

37 posted on 12/08/2013 9:09:02 AM PST by Ditter
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To: meadsjn

Great explanation and so true.


38 posted on 12/08/2013 10:51:15 AM PST by Squeako (The radicals are the wolves. The moderates are the wolves in sheep's clothing.)
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To: Pontiac

Latest polls suggest tide is turning. Just this week two diehard liberals I’ve known for years were expressing disgust with Obamacare. One even spoke about death panels and said Obama only cares that this is his legacy, no matter how bad it is. Anyone else hearing this? Unfortunately, I didn’t think to say to these two Democrats that if they vote Democrat, they vote to keep Obamacare. It was a friend who reinforced that it was not just Obama, it was a Democrat majority House & Senate. They gotta go.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 7:11:36 PM PST by samsmom
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