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Todd Starnes: Air Force Removes Nativity Scene
foxnewsinsider.com ^ | December 9, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 12/10/2013 4:31:08 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

The Baby Jesus has been kicked off Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina, according to an organization who relishes any opportunity to eradicate Christianity from the U.S. military.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation praised officials at Shaw Air Force Base for removing a Nativity scene located near Memorial Lake on Friday. The traditional Nativity included plastic statues of Mary, Joseph, the Baby Jesus and an assortment of animals.

Apparently, an undisclosed number of Airmen were so emotionally troubled by the sight of a manger scene that they immediately notified the MRFF.

I can only imagine the psychological damage they must have suffered as a result of glancing at the plastic statues.

I can only imagine the psychological damage they must have suffered as a result of glancing at the plastic statues. I hope no one needed hospitalization, God forbid.

The MRFF’s Paul Loebe wrote in a statement that since the display was not erected near a chapel, it was illegal.

“It was very sectarian in nature and a direct violation of the U.S. Constitution as well as a blatant violation of Air Force Instruction 1-1, Section 2.11,” he said.

So the Newborn King is a violation of Air Force regulations? Who knew?

Loebe swiftly alerted MRFF President Mikey Weinstein who then called his BFFs at the Pentagon. That led to an immediate investigation and more than two hours later, the Nativity had been removed.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: christianity; christmas; nativityscene; waronchristianity; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2013
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If these guys are afraid of a plastic Baby Jesus, maybe they really don't belong in the military.
1 posted on 12/10/2013 4:31:08 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I remember the good ole days when I was in the Air Force. We actually went to church. Probably gets you kicked out now.


2 posted on 12/10/2013 4:36:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Can someone explain something to me...

Christmas is a National Holiday. It depicts the birth of Jesus Christ. We also have National Holidays or Lincoln, Washington, and MLK. So a nativity scene is in line with the Holiday.

If there was a MOhammed Holiday, we would celebrate his birth too.

Jesus was a man, who lives and who said and did great things. As was Lincoln. We can take the religion out of it and celebrate the man...

What is so complicated about this?


3 posted on 12/10/2013 4:36:51 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: ilovesarah2012

Clearly, an in-depth and comprehensive cognitive/behavioral/emotional assessment of all of the traumatized airmen to determine their fitness for duty is in order.


4 posted on 12/10/2013 4:37:35 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: nikos1121

It’s the same old Mikey (and what normal grown man goes by “Mikey”) Weinstein trying to get rid of Christianity. He needs to learn a lesson about tolerance. Or something.


5 posted on 12/10/2013 4:39:13 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

The Air Force is the spear.

Mikey Weinstein(spit) is the tip.

He tells the AF to jump, and the AF says “How high?”

Disgusting.


6 posted on 12/10/2013 4:40:59 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: ilovesarah2012

This sounds like complete BS. On the other hand... Two hands full of BS is exactly what our Military has turned into. Sorry men/women who served Respectfully!


7 posted on 12/10/2013 4:43:13 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

And if peoplare are SO afraid of Christmas why does the MSM and big business pimp it so heavily during the season (rhetorical question)?


8 posted on 12/10/2013 4:43:34 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ilovesarah2012

undisclosed number of Airmen

Probably 2. If they are so easily offended how did they make it through basic training?


9 posted on 12/10/2013 4:50:53 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Today… is Christmas! There will be a magic show at zero-nine-thirty! Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few Marines!


10 posted on 12/10/2013 4:55:20 AM PST by Einherjar
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Apparently, an undisclosed number of Airmen were so emotionally troubled by the sight of a manger scene that they immediately notified the MRFF. I can only imagine the psychological damage they must have suffered

Next they'll be applying for help from Wounded Warriors.

11 posted on 12/10/2013 4:55:26 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/18/air-force-base-wont-remove-nativity-scene-menorah-from-holiday-display/

AIR FORCE BASE WON’T REMOVE NATIVITY SCENE, MENORAH FROM HOLIDAY DISPLAY

A holiday display featuring a nativity scene and menorah will not be removed from an Air Force Base in California, officials announced Saturday.

The festive display is set up along a main drive heading into Travis Air Force Base and features statues of Joseph, Mary and baby Jesus, along with a large Hanukkah menorah. It’s part of a bigger display featuring Air Force jets and Santa Claus. Such holiday displays are a base tradition, according to Sacramento ABC affiliate KXTV-TV.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a civil rights group, had requested the religious items be removed or relocated after it said it received a complaint from a Travis airman.

“Both are clearly accessible on the main road,” a letter from the MRFF to the Air Force said. “This conspicuous display of ritual objects is a clear endorsement of religion in violation of the…First Amendment.”

A holiday display featuring a nativity scene and menorah will not be removed from an Air Force Base in California, officials announced Saturday.

The festive display is set up along a main drive heading into Travis Air Force Base and features statues of Joseph, Mary and baby Jesus, along with a large Hanukkah menorah. It’s part of a bigger display featuring Air Force jets and Santa Claus. Such holiday displays are a base tradition, according to Sacramento ABC affiliate KXTV-TV.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a civil rights group, had requested the religious items be removed or relocated after it said it received a complaint from a Travis airman.

“Both are clearly accessible on the main road,” a letter from the MRFF to the Air Force said. “This conspicuous display of ritual objects is a clear endorsement of religion in violation of the…First Amendment.”

From 2011. What has changed?


12 posted on 12/10/2013 4:57:29 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: logic101.net

surprising number of wiccans came through USAF officer traiing, and that was 30 years ago

maybe no coinky dink the wiccans got their own worship center at the USAFA

among the services, in the past 5 years the USAF definitely seems to be on the hard left edge when it comes to antiChristian paranoia and suppression

must be a departmental cabal formed around some agenda-driven obama political appointee


13 posted on 12/10/2013 4:57:36 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m surprised they were even allowed to put it up.


14 posted on 12/10/2013 5:03:32 AM PST by onedoug
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To: ilovesarah2012

OMG!! Our MILITARY, our ONCE FINE MILITARY needs to find their B@LLS!!! THIS IS DISGUSTING!!


15 posted on 12/10/2013 5:07:15 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: exit82

I just LOVE when JEWS take Jesus away from us!!!! STOP IT!!


16 posted on 12/10/2013 5:08:07 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: onedoug

Freedom of religion vs. freedom from religion
May. 3, 2013

Call it freedom of religion vs. freedom from religion: The Defense Department was engulfed in a firestorm over religious expression last week, caught in the middle of a tit-for-tat fight between Mikey Weinstein, the former Air Force officer and lawyer at the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and retired Army Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, a senior official with the conservative Family Research Council.

Weinstein met with Air Force officials April 24demanding that the Air Force take stiffer action to stop the intrusion of religion in the work place. The only way to do that, he contends, is to slap offenders with nonjudicial and judicial punishment — including courts-martial.

That was enough to light up the opposition. The Family Research Council launched a petition April 29 imploring Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to “resist the demands of anti-Christian activists who are calling for a court-martial order upon chaplains and service members who share their faith.”

Within days nearly 130,000 people had signed on.

The showdown brought to a head a long-simmering debate over the limits of religious expression in the ranks. It pitted two former officers who personally symbolize that debate: Weinstein is a well-known and relentless critic of any whiff of what some would consider proselytizing in the military. Boykin, when he was in uniform, gained notoriety in 2003 when he seemed to cast the war on terrorism in religious terms, referring to Allah — Islam’s word for God — as “an idol.”

The 130,000 signatures in three days reflected the reach of the council, a Washington-based, conservative Christian organization, as well as the passions at play.

“We want to see a statement from [DoD] that makes it very clear that they gave no assurances about prosecuting through court-martial people of the Christian faith, or any other faith, for openly expressing their beliefs,” said Boykin, executive vice president of the FRC.

DoD has a long-standing policy against forcing one’s religious views on others while in uniform or discriminating against troops for their religious — or nonreligious — beliefs. Commanders to decide whether to punish troops who violate the ban, said DoD spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen.

Weinstein’s meeting with Air Force officials included the judge advocate general, Lt. Gen. Richard Harding and some of his staff, said Air Force spokeswoman Lt. Col. Laurel Tingley.

“At Mr. Weinstein’s request, several Air Force officials met with him and two other members of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation to discuss his concerns,” Tingley said. “He’s not a consultant for the Air Force, nor did we consult with him on Air Force policy on religious tolerance.”

There is no new regulation in the works, she said.

However, the meeting came just as the Air Force was about to distribute its new pocket-sized “Blue Book,” a compilation of regulations on appearance, conduct and work environment. It includes a section that restates a 2011 servicewide memo directing leaders to balance constitutional protections on individual exercise of religion or other personal beliefs and the constitutional ban on governmental establishment of religion.

Failure to comply with any of the regulations — as with all military orders — is punishable under the UCMJ.

Weinstein said the only way to stop the intrusion of religion in the workplace is to slap offenders with nonjudicial and judicial punishment. “This little book is not going to solve the problem,” he said. “We need people to understand the boundaries. People are violating it all over the place, and ... they don’t want to do anything about it.”

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130503/NEWS/305030019/Freedom-religion-vs-freedom-from-religion

I will be praying as David did.

Ps 139:21 Do I not hate them, O LORD, who hate You?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?

Psalm 35:8 Surprise them with disaster! Trap them in their own nets and let them fall and rot n the pits they have dug.


17 posted on 12/10/2013 5:15:30 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ann Archy

I doubt Mikey Weinstein himself would call himself Jewish, at least not in public, for “fear” of “offending” someone.

I certainly don’t believe this is Jewish anti-Christianity activity. It’s probably rabid atheism, most likely.


18 posted on 12/10/2013 5:15:57 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ilovesarah2012

They will be required to give an account...someday


19 posted on 12/10/2013 5:59:00 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: ilovesarah2012

0 got a second term. Rules change, accordingly.


20 posted on 12/10/2013 6:02:06 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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