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N. Korea sells gold in sign of imminent economic collapse: source
Yonhap ^ | Dec 11, 2013

Posted on 12/10/2013 7:31:59 PM PST by rdl6989

SEOUL, Dec. 11 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has begun to sell large amounts of gold to China in a bid to tide over its economic crisis, multiple sources familiar with North Korea affairs said Wednesday.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: gold; kimjongun; korea; northkorea
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To: yarddog

“Wouldn’t gold be more valuable to a country than whatever they exchanged it for?”

Unless you’re buying food from a country that has a surplus.


61 posted on 12/10/2013 9:06:07 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: yarddog

“I have read that Iran is also a big counterfeiter of U.S. $100 bills. They are so good that they cannot be detected except possibly by serial numbers.”

From the book, “The Sectret War with Iran: The 30-Year Clandestine Struggle Against The World”:

‘Yossef Bodansky, who was in charge of the research team for the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, says that in the mid-1970s a Swiss company, with the approval and financial support of the United States, supplied the government of the Shah of Iran with two intaglio presses. They were eventually seized by the revolutionaries. In a special report to the president of the United States, Bodansky wrote that it can be assumed that the high quality of the super-notes can be ascribed to the cadre of Iranian experts trained in the 1970s by the U.S. Treasury’s Bureau of Engraving and Printing. They were put at the service of the Khomeini regime after the revolution.

Only about twenty people know how to reproduce all of the tens of thousands of intricate details that there are on a dollar banknote plate. Interpol is in touch with each one of these craftsmen. No one knows if it was one of them or someone else who made the plates for the super-bill.’


62 posted on 12/10/2013 9:25:00 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: BenLurkin

Every time the metals rise a little...there are stories of “huge supplies” that are soon to hit the market...

:)

IMO if the metals run too hard....we will have food lines and despair.....If the metals are suppressed too hard “like they have been for years” then the dollar goes out the back door of global reality... and we have food lines and despair...The only way out is to let the metals “rise with the times”...and use manipulation to restrict price explosion ..

The brits suggested last week they might support a gold backed digital ...and I think that marks the end of absolute metal suppression...the price must be allowed to appear more realistic than it has ....or else.

The bitcoin....will look worse than paper against a gold backed digital.

So I think its about time the dollar appeared to move realistically with the metals.....to maintain some balance.

oh well

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63 posted on 12/10/2013 9:29:03 PM PST by Therapsid (t)
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To: rdl6989

Sometimes these outlaws go out guns blazing. Hope we are watching closely over there.


64 posted on 12/10/2013 9:34:16 PM PST by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957

I don’t think South Korea wants to see them go down guns blazing


65 posted on 12/10/2013 9:38:09 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: entropy12

Absolutely...Gold can be manipulated by the corrupt..Just like they did with dollars...Fact is, in genuine tough times, you couldn’t trade a gold rock for a ham sandwich.


66 posted on 12/10/2013 9:45:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GeronL; rdl6989; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
Now they have the full story printed: They sold 2,000 tons to Chinese

N. Korea sells gold in sign of imminent economic collapse: source

2013/12/11 11:59

SEOUL, Dec. 11 (Yonhap) — North Korea has begun to sell large amounts of gold to China in a bid to tide over its economic crisis, multiple sources familiar with North Korea affairs said Wednesday.

The disposal could be an indication of an imminent economic collapse as it goes against founding leader Kim Il-sung’s order to never sell the country's gold, according to the sources.

“Since several months ago, North Korea has begun to sell even its gold,” one source said, asking that he not be identified. “Overseas sales of gold are a barometer of whether the North Korean economy is in a crisis or not.”

It is the first time that North Korea has sold gold since its leader Kim Jong-un took power in late 2011 following the death of his father Kim Jong-il, the sources added. Kim Il-sung is the current leader's grandfather.

According to South Korean government data, North Korea holds about 2,000 tons of gold reserves worth at least US$8 billion.

North Korea's economic situation is expected to worsen following the recent purge of Jang Song-thaek — Kim Jong-un’s once-powerful uncle and guardian — as he had handled all economic projects with foreign countries, another source said.

An economic collapse in North Korea could lead to greater economic cooperation with South Korea but also increase the risk of a military provocation against the South, experts said.

67 posted on 12/10/2013 9:50:27 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks, that was interesting.


68 posted on 12/10/2013 9:50:45 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

It amazes me how we shoot ourselves in the foot all the time when we involve ourselves with the Muzzies.


69 posted on 12/10/2013 9:55:32 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


70 posted on 12/10/2013 10:00:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Viennacon
How does a pile of rubble collapse?

It certainly isn't easy, but I have confidence that they nevertheless will show us exactly how.

71 posted on 12/10/2013 10:18:54 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: rdl6989

More likely: North Korea sells gold to make up for shortfall from (No. 2) Jang’s cancelled China networks.


72 posted on 12/10/2013 10:30:25 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: rdl6989

I guess that means we will have another nuclear crisis here soon, resolved by tons of US taxpayer money paid to support on odious regime.


73 posted on 12/10/2013 10:31:16 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tiger, does this mean the Norks have sold ALL of their gold holdings to the Chinese? Is Jong Eun liquidating the gold so he can abdicate and run off to some other country that will have him?


74 posted on 12/10/2013 10:39:40 PM PST by miele man
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

“More likely: North Korea sells gold to make up for shortfall from (No. 2) Jang’s cancelled China networks.”

And to pay for the extra food for the troops of the two generals that just got executed.
With any luck, it will turn out just like when the Romans paid off the Germanic troops.


75 posted on 12/10/2013 10:40:14 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: miele man

I don’t think he intends to step down. Regime’s cash reserve is running low or some officials sold off gold to make money without Kim’s blessing.


76 posted on 12/10/2013 10:53:23 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: GeronL

The Norks do what the chicoms tell them to do. They give the Chinese implausible deniability to sell nuclear weapons kits, missiles, near flawless US currency, counterfeit US gold and silver coins, meth, you name it. A country that can’t build a bicycle can build a nuclear bomb? I think not.


77 posted on 12/10/2013 11:09:01 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He may well not intend to step down but then he certainly dances to his own drummer. My antenna went way up when I saw the sale of 2,000 tons of gold. The article said NK’s total gold holding was 2,000 tons and your comment said they’d sold 2,000 tons to the Chinese. I just am having a hard time accepting the Norks would sell off ALL of their gold and have none in reserve. Jong Eun may not be the brightest bulb in the lamp but I would not think he was this stupid, but then he may have pressures bearing down on him.


78 posted on 12/10/2013 11:41:07 PM PST by miele man
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To: rdl6989

At least they have gold to sell. Many countries don’t.


79 posted on 12/11/2013 3:26:43 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: miele man
Actually you have a point. The semantics about gold-selling is not clear. In some report, the gold holding actually means NK’s gold mine which is estimated to have 2,000 tons, and they started to sell off mining right. Other reports seem to suggest that they did sold all of their gold they hold.
80 posted on 12/11/2013 3:44:13 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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