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Ryan Deal Limits Senate GOP’s Power to Block Tax Increases
National Review ^ | 12/11/13 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 12/11/2013 6:54:47 PM PST by Mount Athos

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To: 1010RD
Nonsense? How can you even say that? How many precincts in key swing states voted for Obama giving 100, 105, 110 percent of the votes to Obama?

I will predict the 2014 outcome. They will win every seat they need by 1% of the vote in the 11th hour.

They'll let the Republicans keep a few seats to make it look real.

Anyone who brings up the countless charges of inconsistencies and fraud will immediately be labelled a conspiracy theorist, sore loser. The Republicans will be the first ones up there claiming there is no evidence of "widespread fraud".

Barring popular uprising and massive landslides---and the Republicans are doing everything in their power to alienate their base to ensure that never happens--this will be how it rolls.

81 posted on 12/12/2013 2:18:10 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: JediJones

THe Republicans invented the exchanges...the subsidies were based off Medicare D, the medicaid expansion was modeled after schip...all Republican invention.

“The mandate is trying to make sure people pay into the health care system instead of taking a free ride. It’s anti-welfare.”

No It is making the healthy pay for the sick regardless of whether they want to. It is welfare and socialism.


82 posted on 12/12/2013 2:37:58 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: riri

Let’s not go off the rails here. How did the most conservative GOP Congress win in 2012? Remember Obama lost voters back in 09 when he pushed Obamacare through. If it were that easy to steal elections, then we wouldn’t win at all.

You’re correct that there are certain precincts in certain urban areas in certain counties in certain states where cheating occurs, but if it were that easy why sic the IRS on TEA Party groups?


83 posted on 12/12/2013 3:50:04 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
I think, by and large, they were putting most of the effort into stealing the presidential election. They had it down to a science. They knew the states, the vulnerable precincts, the places where they can put in their apparatus.

They use multiple forms of fraud. Busing "voters" around, buying off votes, rigging machines where they can, recounting and finding votes over and over again-- a rather large undertaking. (though it really boiled down to a few states)

They also know they can rely on the Republicans to be too weak, that is why they grow bolder and bolder. Who is going to stop them? Boehner? Reince? Is McConnell going to hold a press conference and expose them? That's laughable.

These people are communists. They have, near, complete power. It's what leftists do. You actually think they are going to let elections take this away from them?

Hey, maybe I am off the rails. Let's hope. But, I will count on logging on here next year and seeing a ton of stunned posts and eeyores--wondering how it happened.

84 posted on 12/12/2013 4:06:00 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Gipper08

In my mind, the “mandate” would be like any emergency services tax, and the revenue would go solely to reimburse hospitals for unpaid medical bills. But you could deduct any medical costs you have 100% from it, so if you were buying insurance, you wouldn’t pay it. It’s not any more socialist than paying a tax to fund firefighters and police. Anyone could incur medical costs from an accident just like their home could catch fire, so it’s not unreasonable to expect people to pay a tax for the availability of free emergency medical care, which has been mandated since 1986 by EMTALA but never funded.


85 posted on 12/12/2013 4:15:35 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones

your mind is a socialist mind


86 posted on 12/12/2013 4:16:57 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08

Wrong. Either repeal EMTALA or fund it through something like an emergency services fee. Because there’s nothing worse than demanding the private sector give away its own money, have them pass the costs on to people who actually pay their medical bills by charging them more, but let the free riders with no insurance and who don’t pay their bills show up at the ER for “free” care. If you’re for that status quo, then you’re for socialism, i.e. money being redistributed from some people to pay other people’s bills for them.


87 posted on 12/12/2013 4:40:55 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Gipper08

The law as it stands now is EXACTLY the same as if the feds passed a law saying that any homeless person who shows up at a hotel needs to be given a room free of charge. That means the rates for all the paying customers have to go up to make up for that while the freeloader pays nothing. I would be fine with repealing the emergency room law, but if it isn’t, then the government needs to come up with a way to reimburse those businesses for following their orders, preferably one that collects money from the people who have no history of paying for health insurance or medical bills.


88 posted on 12/12/2013 6:57:27 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: riri

The evidence is there in so many of these cases (for the fraud you surmise). The Rats win the top of the ticket by squeaking by but down ballot they lose. The percentage of voters who split their vote down ticket isn’t that great and if it were truly random it would at least on occasion go the other way. It never does, though. Does it? Yet we are expected to sit by and watch as congress criminals betray our country and destroy our grandchildren’s future. Things are about to bust open. Like the Book says, there is a “quickening”.


89 posted on 12/13/2013 4:13:09 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Mount Athos

Ryan gets rolled by a bag lady wearing tennis shoes.


90 posted on 12/13/2013 6:16:56 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: wastoute
I hope. Honestly, sitting back and watching them steal election after election is not fun. Even worse, is watching smart, informed people continue to delude themselves that what they see happening is not happening.
91 posted on 12/13/2013 9:39:18 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: plain talk
These RINOs went out to Silicon Valley and came back ready to stick it to the conservative base.

It's always the same. It's always about the money. Clearly Zuckerberg has made big promises to Cantor, Ryan, Boehner, etc., to reward them richly for undermining their constituency.

What is particularly stinky is how these same whores won't lift a finger to help conservatives against the IRS.

We didn't need Billions and Billions to turn over the House in 2010.

We have the internet, we have the votes.

92 posted on 12/16/2013 12:32:55 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Gipper08
I've always been in favor of direct taxation, like toll roads. Hurts every time you pay them, so you think twice about using the road, unlike hidden taxes for roads in your income.

A toll for the ER? Not a bad idea...

93 posted on 12/16/2013 12:37:09 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mount Athos
Who the F*CK is running this SH!TSHOW?

Burn down the Capitol building. NOW!

94 posted on 11/27/2015 4:27:06 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Bit of an old thread,eh?


95 posted on 11/27/2015 4:31:03 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: crosdaddy

Hahaha... I think Infat fingered one of those word cloud things up top. every thread was about Ryan.... it was making my blood boil.


96 posted on 11/27/2015 4:36:19 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Well,the only reason I read it,was because Ryan(the great policy wonk/S)
has made my blood boil since day one.
So,no problem,other than you just made my blood boil,grrrr


97 posted on 11/27/2015 4:46:06 PM PST by crosdaddy
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