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Pope Francis and the economists
Accuracy in Academia ^ | December 9, 2013 | Alejandro Antonio Chafuen

Posted on 12/12/2013 8:00:51 AM PST by Academiadotorg

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To: BarnacleCenturion
The full text is here: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#The_joy_of_the_gospel You won’t find anything resembling socialism in there.

Really? I went there and I find that paragraphs 202-208 which are under the heading "The economy and the distribution of income" are nothing but pure socialism. It specifically calls for the common management of the distribution wealth. Marx could have written it.

21 posted on 12/12/2013 9:15:01 AM PST by circlecity
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To: BarnacleCenturion
He is not calling for higher taxes or greater government control

But he says,

It is vital that government leaders and financial leaders take heed and broaden their horizons, working to ensure that all citizens have dignified work, education and healthcare

Ensuring that all citizens have healthcare sure sounds like Gov't control to me.

22 posted on 12/12/2013 9:16:54 AM PST by what's up
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To: SC_Pete

Justice, Communitive justice, distributive justice, social justice, etc..

The Left has highjacked the language of the Church, and the term “justice” itself. They patiently and methodically reached the point of being able to strong arm the media into defining all important concepts in their terms, and thereby, and over time, moved the masses toward their smoked up version of words and terms and concepts to match their Leftist ideology.

Even many Catholics, and non Catholics certainly, are oblivious to the original and the real useage, definitions and concepts.

This puts the Church on its heels in an impossible defensive posture, unable to catechise the world in time to save the world, or themselves.

Ignorance is sometimes a pacifier and to shake off its shackles requires work. Most don’t really give a damn today, therefore the Left has liberty to shape a lie.


23 posted on 12/12/2013 9:18:08 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: circlecity; BarnacleCenturion
Good catch. This sounds like Obama.

203...Inequality is the root of social ills.

203. The dignity of each human person and the pursuit of the common good are concerns which ought to shape all economic policies.

24 posted on 12/12/2013 9:21:14 AM PST by what's up
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To: Academiadotorg

Pope Francis: The Bucks Stop here


25 posted on 12/12/2013 10:10:02 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Academiadotorg
Pope Francis

Is "Peter the Roman"

He may also be the False Prophet.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
26 posted on 12/12/2013 11:06:15 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: RitaOK

Coercive redistribution of wealth always ends the same way: with Lenin, Stalin, Mao tse tung, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Pol Pot, and the extermination of millions upon millions.

Nothing is more moral or just than letting people keep the fruits of their labor, honestly earned by the sweat of the brow. Nothing is more evil than governmental theft, the abrogation of personal property rights, punishment of creativity

The Pope confuses Charity with politics: tax and spend policies. He needs to be reminded that Karl Marx was not the Christ. In terms of real Christian Charity—NO ONE THE THE FACE OF THE EARTH GIVES MORE THAN FREE MARKET ECOONOMIES. How charitable is Venezuela? How charitable is China? Or Cuba? You have to make money to spend it—or give it.


27 posted on 12/12/2013 12:57:25 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: what's up
This sounds like Obama.

203. The dignity of each human person ...

Anyone who advocates for abortion and leaving survivors of attempted abortions to die (Obama) has no comprehension of the "dignity of each human person."

28 posted on 12/12/2013 1:08:19 PM PST by ELS
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To: what's up

Yes, Jesus would be the first person to turn away a prostitute from health care because she spent all her money on drugs. The Bible is filled with stories of Jesus blaming the poor for their problems and refusing to help them.


29 posted on 12/13/2013 6:15:16 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis
The Bible is filled with stories of Jesus blaming the poor for their problems and refusing to help them

Charity should be promoted and practiced at every turn.

But Gov't mandates are not charity. They are programs designed to remove $ from taxpayers' pockets in order to win votes for politicians and money for bureaucrats. This leaves less money for the taxpayer himself to give personally as he sees fit. And far too often the poor are left out in the cold as the bureaucrat pockets money that should have gone to the poor.

Socialist Gov'ts often use the Bible to manipulate the way to higher taxes. Again, this is a distortion of the Bible. God is looking for people to give of themselves...not look to a faceless, institutional State to do it on their behalf.

30 posted on 12/13/2013 6:27:31 PM PST by what's up
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To: tbpiper

FREE ENTERPRISE THE FAIREST SYSTEM, KEY TO ENDING POVEERTY -

Arthur Brooks AEI
May 18, 2012

By Peter Samuel

Briefs poverty free enterpise aei

“The (biggest) recipients of the blessings of free enterprise are the poor themselves. How do I know it?

“Go back to 1970, and compare 1970 around the world to today. It turns out that between 1970 and 2010 the worst poverty in the world - people who live on one dollar a day or less - has decreased by 80 percent. You never hear about that.

“It is the greatest achievement in human history, and you never hear about it.
“80 percent of the world’s worst poverty has been eradicated (in 40 years.)

“That has never ever happened before.

“So what did that? What accounts for that?

“United Nations?

“US foreign aid?

“The International Monetary Fund?

“Central planning?

“...nah.

“It was globalization, free trade, the boom in international entrepreneurship. In short it was the free enterprise system, American style, which is our gift to the world.

“...I will assert and defend the statement that if you love the poor, if you are a good Samaritan you must stand for the free enterprise system, and you must defend it not just for ourselves but for people around the world.

“It is the best anti-poverty measure ever invented.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss80iuEBC6A


31 posted on 01/06/2014 8:55:04 AM PST by Dqban22
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