Posted on 12/12/2013 1:03:58 PM PST by Nachum
Bastards
The NSA has been creating maps of American citizens' social networks
Why do they want to do that? What could social networks be used for in the hands of government? Consider:
Using Metadata to Find Paul Revere
How will such capabilities be used now? How They Hunt
Is it already too late?
I’m wondering if going back to using a pager would be of any use to avoid the tracking.
Even a pager, using any power , is looking for a signal
The only way to incapacitate any signal looking device is : to remove the battery !
Remember when the Press would fly on Air Force One .. the first thing upon entering was surrender of all cell phones, and battery removed .
With the battery still in the device , it still searches for a signal, even when turned off .
How about a list of all the terrorist found by the NSA with all this surveillence? What? What you say? None? None, are you kidding me?
My electronic breadcrumbs: the drugstore, the Dollar store, several grocery stores, the drycleaners, Sam’s Club, the car mechanic, the post office, McDonald’s, WalMart, Lowe’s, church, home again. Knock yersefs out, gubmit snoops.
They will keep collecting until you break some unknown law. This is just setting up for the future when we will all be criminals.
This is link analysis on steroids.
None of this is rocket science; what DOES get tricky is doing it near real-time and with extrapolation. Throwing hardware alone at problems like these isn’t enough. Been there, done that, and I threw out my sweaty and food-stained T-shirt.
“How about a list of all the terrorist found by the NSA with all this surveillence?”
They are probably not quite stupid enough to leave crumbs.
I was wondering if there was any extra difficulty acquiring the signal history of a pager as opposed to a cell phone. Most likely the spooks have long been archiving pager info, though.
I’d bet the phone doesn’t even have to be turned on.
bkmk
After researching this a little and watching some YouTube videos I discovered that removing the battery will most likely NOT get the job done. Because the GPS circuitry inside the phone is powered by another battery that you can't get to.
However, you can make your phone invisible by putting it in a mylar potato chip bag. The bag forms a "Faraday Cage" which prevents receiving and sending radio signals.
How did they do that with iPhones?
So, if they actually wanted to, they could identify everyone who went from polling place to polling place to polling place to vote multiple times, couldn’t they?
[crickets]
"Let the chips fall where they may ..."
It might also depend on the mill thickness of the mylar bag
I know that many electronic parts are shipped in mylar
Maybe a good time to 'recycle' some of those bags, and see if Apple or Google continues to send you updated location temps and time ?
I had read about this so some friends and I tested it.
We took a cell phone, put it on vibrate and called it. The phone, naturally, vibrated. Then we put the phone in a mylar bag that once held chocolate chip cookies. Called the phone again. No reaction from the phone in the bag. We tried this with three other phones and always got the same result.
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