Posted on 12/12/2013 3:53:59 PM PST by Gipper08
Toad Young (IN) yea
Looks like we got rid of Robber Barron Hill just to put a another toady in place. *sigh*
Fortunately, IN9 will have a strict contructionist, limited government, State sovereignty option next year.
James R. McClure Jr.
Jeffersonian Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9
There is a difference between conservative politics and electoral politics.
The GOP won’t win elections being bystanders and that is what the game plan is now. Same old loser tip toe to the election strategy.
Just now instead of surrendering on the current battle they chose to preemptively surrender on the entire campaign. Boehner took the McConnell CR surrender plan and put it on steroids.
Sorry FRiend, there is nothing new here from the GOP. The leadership has been invisible on IRS, NSA, Obamacare, etc., etc. They expect the electorate to do the heavy lifting for them and that is a sure fire loser strategy. Democrats never wait for the next election. They fight every day for every inch. That’s how you win.
My Rep John Carter (R) just sent out a mailer two weeks ago touting that he is working to hold the line on Federal spending. Now he votes for this monstrosity in order to “save” Fort Hood. Another deal with the devil.
If you like being permanently in the minority be my guest.
Another government shutdown was and is an immediate loser for the GOP at-large. Sure some more conservative districts wouldn’t change a dot, but a lot of the GOP districts (I’m in Tiberi’s BTW) are already trending more purpleish, and losing those districts gives Peloser another chance at being Speaker.
No thanks, I’ll pass, even if it means a 2 year budget deal that sucks - just to avoid that scenario.
I’m surprised Tim voted for it. I expected better from him.
Although a hero for his time as a Vietnam POW, Rep. Sam Johnson (RINO - TX) doesn’t deserve applause on this vote.
Johnson has gone full blown amnesty in a way that would make Marco Rubio blush. Johnson is a crony capitalist but not a conservative.
Frankly, his “representation” is a good example for term limits.
More rinos voted aye than dems? Am I reading that right or have a bad link?
This guy is my rep. I'll vote for the dog catcher before I'll ever cast a vote for him.
If you like being permanently in the minority be my guest.
Another government shutdown was and is an immediate loser for the GOP at-large. Sure some more conservative districts wouldnt change a dot, but a lot of the GOP districts (Im in Tiberis BTW) are already trending more purpleish, and losing those districts gives Peloser another chance at being Speaker.
No thanks, Ill pass, even if it means a 2 year budget deal that sucks - just to avoid that scenario.
I never said blindly shutdown the government. I said engage the Democrats. Boehner & McConnell steadfastly refused to do so for years. They will not suddenly be an engaged opposition party in 2014. McConnell already let slip we need to wait until 2016.
The Dems are already messaging their voters for 2014. What exact is the GOP strategy now for 2014? There is none other than tell us they want to repeal obamacare (after funding it again). They have deliberately removed what little leverage points they had fully funding everything.
Other than hold a debate club on The Hill the GOP has no game plan. That’s not how you beat rampaging marxists. You need to see that the beltway GOP is totally content in the minority with Obama in the WH.
The problem is inside the beltway. Stop blaming conservatives call a spade a spade.
Weird. When our side acts like conservatives and not democrats we win elections. There were more than two options here. It isn’t this bill or shutdown.
My only reason for not caring too much about this failure is that this current leadership team is so massively incompetent, I doubt they can do much better under any scenario.
We are at a point of no confidence in the party leadership. The only thing that will cost us the midterm is complete disgust and another complete failure by the senate campaign apparatus that has been a disaster for two cycles.
I always want to know how anyone will vote when their vote breaks a tie.
Pretty disgusting that out of 7 TN Republicans, only 2 voted against this trash. At least I had the pleasure of seeing my representative’s (DesJarlais) name in the ‘Nay’ column and have already emailed a big thank you to him.
A majority of Republicans voted to put us, our children and our grandchildren trillions more in debt. They should be removed, every one of them.
Do they not think we don’t notice what they are doing? Do they have such deep pocket or connections that they forget they are civil servant and they are serving at our pleasure?
I never have to call my Rep Joe Barton (Tx) except to thank him. A principled conservative. Best Rep I have had since Ron Paul.
Thornberry in Texas District 13 voted yes -— please help me Primary him!!!
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Im glad the GOP finally wised up to electoral realities and took an issue off of the table for the leftists to whine about all summer long.
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Contrary to most of the FReeper comments I’ve read here, I tend to agree with you.
I may be confused because of all the pro/con articles I’ve read about this. However, from what I gather:
1) The majority of the sequester is still in place. This bill reduces the sequester cuts to the Dept. of Defense.
2) As you indicated, the new Congress after the 2014 elections is not obligated to adhere to this deal.
3) It does take the whole budget argument off the table for 2014, and allows the GOPe and Conservatives to keep the heat on Obamacare and the other Democrat/Obama Admin. scandals.
All of your arguments may be valid, in the near term. However, who is considering our children and grandchildren?
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