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How the West was lost by the selfie president
The New York Post ^ | December 15, 2013 | Michael Goodwin

Posted on 12/15/2013 5:41:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: KeyLargo

Let me get all “racist” here: The dumb asses who walk among us put BLACK trash in the Spite House!!
Memo to the dumb asses: Do that again and you will live to regret it. Or not!


41 posted on 12/15/2013 7:43:49 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Beagle8U

YOu done stepped in a nest of the dumbest hornets on the forum……and you’ll be called a Maoist, a tool of chinese handlers, a progressive, a lover of the income tax, and you’ll be told that free trade is a progressive policy, and all by guys who are apparently smarter than Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and Adam Smith…..not to mention Sarah Palin and Ronald Reagan.


42 posted on 12/15/2013 7:51:48 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Soul of the South; Jim Noble

What should Apple Corp do?

They, and their manufacturing subsidiary employ some 700 thousand people in China I believe. So, is Apple good? Or is Apple bad?

(warning: I have baited you into an argument you cannot possibly win…..so enter at your own risk)


43 posted on 12/15/2013 7:54:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I think it is our government who should act.

We need a global import tariff. But I stress, this must be global. NO EXCEPTIONS.

On all imports. I say we should start with 10%. Every single good, service or product. Oil. Food. Produced goods, such as your example of Apple.

America needs to build things.


44 posted on 12/15/2013 7:59:09 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So, if all Apple products were hit with a 10% tariff, how many American jobs would that produce? ZERO.

BUT, how many jobs would America lose? Lets see…..no doubt some of their 30 thousand store employees would be laid off….and no doubt Fed Ex, who ships their products into the US, would be laid off….and then there’s all the tech geeks who lose some of their customers….etc.

You see dude…this sh-t is just more complicated than your whiny “bring em back” mantra contemplates.

Why don’t we stop making building a factory so damned hard and expensive with the EPA, local zonings, union rules, crony kick backs, etc. Why don’t we roll back our own liberalism and then just get the hell out of the way and let America rock???

No, you would rather apply your own personally approved taxation…..


45 posted on 12/15/2013 8:03:23 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: central_va

No, sales tax should be limited to a state issue so people can escape if it becomes a burden.

Income tax should be flat, with the exact same rate charged to everyone on all earnings, with no exemptions or deductions that doesn’t apply to everyone in an equal amount.

A standard deduction of, let’s say, $12,000 per person would apply to the burger-flipper or Bill Gates.

No more class warfare, if the tax rate is raised it would effect everyone equally by the same percentage.

Liberal pukes wouldn’t be able to rally support for raising taxes on someone else to buy votes, nor would they have much luck in raising them to support the lazy. The RAT party would be out of business.

It wouldn’t take long for a minimal tax rate, to support a very limited government, to be arrived at.

With no deductions, high tax states and cities would lose population and representative control of everyone else.


46 posted on 12/15/2013 8:15:02 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Demand the selfie president’s resignation. He’s done enough damage to us already, but doing something so unpresidential as taking his own picture with a cell phone goes 1,000 feet over the line that he’s already 1,000,000,000 feet over.


47 posted on 12/15/2013 8:25:29 AM PST by PlastiqueDabble
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Oh well, I don’t suffer fools, and I’ve never been very good a pulling punches.


48 posted on 12/15/2013 8:28:24 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Iran marches toward nuclear weapons and already there is talk in military circles that a nuclear-armed Iran could mean mushroom clouds in the Mideast within five years.

China is flexing its muscles throughout Asia, its ships brazenly confronting ours on the high seas. Russia is expanding its writ in the Arab lands and in Eastern Europe while making casual threats about bombing America. Syria’s Assad uses chemical weapons and Obama and Cameron rattle little sabers before meekly agreeing to become his partner.

Our political system has incentives built into it that push forward politicians who are shallow, narcissistic and foolish. If Democrats could lower the voting age to 12 they would. That's our hint. Voting needs to stay open to all, but it needs to be made a tad more difficult.

49 posted on 12/15/2013 8:42:27 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Beagle8U
Income tax should be flat,

You believe in income taxes, whether flat or otherwise, MAKES YOU A PROGRESSIVE. All forms of income tax are progressive, tariffs are consumption based and conservative in nature, easily avoidable. Just don't by imports.

50 posted on 12/15/2013 9:45:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Perhaps a tariff would be convinced them to to build their NEXT factory in the USA. Or it could cause another manufacturer to build here.


51 posted on 12/15/2013 9:47:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Sure thing Skippy, whatever you say.


52 posted on 12/15/2013 9:47:39 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: central_va

Moreover, I gave you a simple choice between no income taxes and a tariff. An either or choice. You chose income taxes, therefore you are a socialist.


53 posted on 12/15/2013 9:49:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Beagle8U

Commie.


54 posted on 12/15/2013 9:50:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You are either drunk or stupid, I’m done with your nonsense.


55 posted on 12/15/2013 9:55:08 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: central_va
Perhaps a tariff would be convinced them to to build their NEXT factory in the USA. Or it could cause another manufacturer to build here.

Not likely, but it might cause them not to build it AT ALL. This is what taxes and regulations do…destroy business opportunity. Think Boeing: they moved a plant to SC to escape Seattle's liberalism - because there is much less in SC. Had the unions won in SC, the next stop would have been….overseas…or not at all. And with Boeing and Apple, they sell their products worldwide, so a tariff in the US would only deprive US customers….not the company per se necessarily.

What would cause them to build it here is a roll back of regulations and bureaucracy and taxation here. It is very expensive to build stuff overseas and ship it back here. Companies only do it when it's even more expensive to put up with our unions, our EPA, our IRS, our OSHA, etc etc etc.

56 posted on 12/15/2013 9:58:22 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I believe in free markets and free trade between the 50 US states. Across international borders, not so much. Your Boeing story prove my point.

I've heard all of the BS excuses for off shoring before so save them.

57 posted on 12/15/2013 10:17:32 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Beagle8U

AMF income tax lover.


58 posted on 12/15/2013 10:17:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I’m not sure how the Boeing story proves your point…..they moved to SC to escape Washington state liberalism. Period. In this case, union demands primarily, but some other issues as well. This example proves my point that businesses want to escape liberalism. Washington State may think SC took jobs from them, but that’s not true. Boeing was never able to make the Dreamliner work financially in Washington State. So those were not jobs offshored to SC (as example) - they were jobs that only exist because there was an option outside of Washington State.

And of course, you cannot refute my Apple analogy either.

Furthermore, normally its only liberals who think business is so doggoned easy that companies just willy nilly move stuff here and there so they can offer BS excuses. Staying in business is not exactly a BS reason to do something. Neither is earning a reasonable profit.


59 posted on 12/15/2013 10:27:07 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

WA to SC real good. WA to Canton NOT GOOD for America, get it?


60 posted on 12/15/2013 10:29:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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