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Colorado school shooter's parents: 'Shattered' and mystified
NBC News ^ | 12/16/13 | Tracy Connor

Posted on 12/17/2013 2:15:38 AM PST by Libloather

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A classmate told NBC News that Karl Pierson was an avid reader of a notorious bomb-making bible, "The Anarchist Cookbook" and was packing a grudge against debate coach Tracy Murphy, the school librarian.

“Speech and debate was his life, and the fact that he wasn’t there crushed him a little bit and made him really tense and angry,” Joe Redmond, the team co-captain said.

He said Pierson and Murphy “did not get along, and whatever it was escalated to a death threat.”

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KEYWORDS: colorado; parents; school; shooter
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Mammas, don't let your babies grow up to be socialists.
1 posted on 12/17/2013 2:15:38 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The liberal/socialist disease has been genetically linked to the mother or father but occasionally can skip a generation or two and just show up.

Proper parenting and training can reverse the effects and children can grow up and become productive members of society with strong work ethics and personal responsibility traits which can weaken the gene that causes the liberal/socialist disease and prevent further recurrence in follow-on bloodlines.

In rare instances, removal of all entitlements and forced work ethics and personal responsibilities has shown a potential for reversing the effects the liberal/socialist disease but requires strict adherence to prevent relapse.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 2:30:12 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Libloather

Liberals that get what they want are smug.

Liberals who don’t get what they want are violent.


3 posted on 12/17/2013 2:32:18 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Libloather

Sorry. No sympathy for this little bastard and the fools who spawned him. My sympathy is for the poor kid he shot and her family.

Real evil DOES exist. It CAN take over a human soul and influence it to do evil, when not guided by positive religious beliefs.

The best weapon of Satan is to convince people he doesn’t exist. And he is very successful at that in America and Europe.


4 posted on 12/17/2013 2:41:35 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: ZULU

“Real evil DOES exist. It CAN take over a human soul and influence it to do evil, when not guided by positive religious beliefs.”

Real evil existed and it was this kid, it’s not like he was a good person suddenly infected with a parasite. This is demon theology - a misguided attempt by some Christians to excuse evil done by man by “blaming the demon”.

The logic is if you can claim to “get rid of the demon” through some claimed divine event, you can then be held blameless for whatever it is that you did.

Preposterous.

No, this kid was simply a self-absorbed turd. The only good thing he did in life was kill himself. He was the demon.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 2:51:20 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Yet Zulu is correct, once demons take a hold of a soul, they are the ones in control.


6 posted on 12/17/2013 3:22:25 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: RFEngineer

Not preposterous at all nor did I infer in any way the prime actor was not culpable. Go back and read my post again - more carefully.

Evil does exist and Satan is real and people who are receptive to him and closed to the reality of God are effective and willing vessels for his objectives.


7 posted on 12/17/2013 3:23:15 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Biggirl

“Yet Zulu is correct, once demons take a hold of a soul, they are the ones in control.”

No. People are the arbiters of right and wrong within themselves. If they lack the character to act in favor of what they know is right they perpetuate evil. Failing to do that consistently enough and you are a bad person.

No proxy need be involved. The only “demons” are simply bad people.

Demon theology is way too convenient and allows a pathway to forgiveness that ought not be there - it eliminates penitence - because why be penitent if you’ve cured the problem by “getting rid” of the demon?


8 posted on 12/17/2013 3:44:51 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: ZULU

“Evil does exist and Satan is real and people who are receptive to him and closed to the reality of God are effective and willing vessels for his objectives.”

“receptive to Satan” is tantamount to “demon theology”. You didn’t say it exactly, so fair enough, you didn’t say it.

“receptive to Satan” suffers the same failings as demon theology, though.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 3:48:10 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

While I do not doubt about the need for “free will” to decide to do evil, once demons find that opening, they can and will take control.

Safe to say, let us agree to disagree.


10 posted on 12/17/2013 3:57:45 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ZULU

AMEN. Second what you said.


11 posted on 12/17/2013 3:58:40 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ZULU

The enemy finds open doorways to the soul.


12 posted on 12/17/2013 3:59:54 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Libloather

The kids was a pronounced socialist. At some point the parent’s influence comes into play here. I’d like to hear more about the parents before further commentary. If they promoted his views to any degree, there is plenty of red meat to chew on here.


13 posted on 12/17/2013 4:05:03 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Libloather

Again, the media is whitewashing his avowed claim to being a socialist. Not a single reference was made to even allude to that self description all over his Facebook postings. By being that overt, either his parents are clueless, as in the Texas “affluenza” killer, totally removed from his life, or knowingly accepting and courting his Marxist bent.

To be an experienced and effective debater, one must practice, practice, practice. His parents had to know what was going on, everyone in school did.


14 posted on 12/17/2013 4:23:49 AM PST by mazda77
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To: ZULU

“Sorry. No sympathy for this little bastard and the fools who spawned him. My sympathy is for the poor kid he shot and her family.”

“Jesus wept.”


15 posted on 12/17/2013 4:26:34 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: RFEngineer

That’s not the way it works, I’d recommend picking up a bible.

What this kid did was terrible. What Saul did before he became Paul was terrible as well. Yet, you can see what happened there.


16 posted on 12/17/2013 4:28:20 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Libloather

His parents probably indoctrinated this boy into violent hate of all things good... obama is their messiah so when you pray to evil... you become evil.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 4:30:08 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: RFEngineer

MARK 1:39 – “And He went through all Galilee, preaching in their synagogues and expelling the demons “

MARK 16:17 – “And signs shall attend those who believe, even such as those. By making use of My name they shall expel demons”


18 posted on 12/17/2013 4:32:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Libloather

NBC must not have very competent reporters. It’s quite funny that they couldn’t find out that the guard that ended the shooting spree was armed. It’s also funny that NBC couldn’t find out that the shooter was a vocal communist sympathizer. Maybe NBC should stop in at the middle school journalism club and hire a couple of good reporters.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 4:58:32 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Libloather

Once again, the parents are shocked.. SHOCKED that their kids could commit an act of violence. Never mind some of this little socialist’s schoolmates saw the rage bubbling up in him.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 5:03:25 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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