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OBAMASCARE: Huge premium hikes rock employer-insured workers
Washington Times ^ | December 16, 2013 | Tom Howell Jr

Posted on 12/17/2013 6:01:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

"....Already reeling from criticism over his flawed promise that people who like their health care plans will be able to keep them, Mr. Obama risks further erosion of his credibility if people believe his health care law is cutting into job-based plans they figured were safe...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abolishobamacare; aca; healthcare; insurance; obamacare; obamacarepremiums
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1 posted on 12/17/2013 6:01:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ours went up 25%. Insurance rep explained that part of the increase was due to five new taxes imposed by Obamacare.

I can't believe the public at large is allowing this.
3 posted on 12/17/2013 6:09:59 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Don't know why the graphic got removed in #2, but here's a link to it: Blaming Obamacare
4 posted on 12/17/2013 6:11:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Those of us who actually read the bill knew of this three years ago.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 6:22:41 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: mmichaels1970

I can’t believe the insurance companies aren’t making sure their customers are aware of this fact. Were they threatened? (redundant question)


6 posted on 12/17/2013 6:24:09 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: mmichaels1970

My employer goes July-to-June for health insurance, so we’re already locked in until next July, but having heard our HR folks talk in the break room, our very liberal company is about to be completely flabbergasted by the rate hikes next year.

They called me Chicken Little. I can’t wait for the apologies.


7 posted on 12/17/2013 6:24:09 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

If the company is liberal, I’m sure they’ll be happy to load any increased costs on the employees and blame the insurance company.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 6:30:04 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m blessed to work for a large company based in Canada. They went ahead and implemented the changes this past January so our rates went up quite a bit in 2013. Because of that they only went up slightly this year, but I feel for those who aren’t as lucky. What a freaking mess! Problem in the majority of Obama voters won’t be affected as they are already on welfare or medicare or whatever. They don’t care what happens to those of us who actually pay into the system.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 6:30:58 AM PST by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Obamacare is the Law of the Land”
John Boehner


10 posted on 12/17/2013 6:37:23 AM PST by vekzen
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To: Heart of Georgia; All
I can’t believe the insurance companies aren’t making sure their customers are aware of this fact.

We were told about 4 months ago to expect a 30% increase in our premium. Our company worked it down to 25%. On top of THAT, we drop from a 90/10 coverage plan to an 80/20 plan. So the amount I get billed after insurance is going to double.
11 posted on 12/17/2013 6:39:25 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Heart of Georgia

I think there is a billy making it illegal for insurance companies to reveal that cancellations and rate increases and higher max out of pocket are caused by democRatcare.


12 posted on 12/17/2013 6:43:14 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have been with my company for five years. Our insurance rates have increased every year at a rate of about 15-20%. And every year our company has incurred these increases without affecting us employees.

Except THIS YEAR! This year our rates went up 47%! Our company still incurred the BULK of this increase, but I expect that the rates will continue to increase but the company will not be able to continually eat these without some employee layoffs and/or other measures!


13 posted on 12/17/2013 6:44:29 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: rarestia
They called me Chicken Little. I can’t wait for the apologies.

You probably won't get one. Instead they'll tell you how the evil Republicans sabotaged everything. /s

14 posted on 12/17/2013 6:58:38 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: rarestia
That would be nice, but knowing liberals they will be calling you an asshole for not speaking up louder and fighting harder to let them know what was in this 'terrible' bill!!

Lord knows that seems to be their mentality...saving them from themselves..

15 posted on 12/17/2013 7:00:33 AM PST by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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To: sevinufnine
I’m blessed to work for a large company based in Canada. They went ahead and implemented the changes this past January so our rates went up quite a bit in 2013. Because of that they only went up slightly this year, but I feel for those who aren’t as lucky. What a freaking mess!.

My son in law works in the Boston area for the Dutch company ING, one of the largest companies in the world.
ING owns several Insurance companies amongst other things.

His rate went from $350/month to $750/month and his deductible went from $2,000 to $5,000. -Tom

16 posted on 12/17/2013 7:01:36 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s got to happen. There are millions of company-provided plans about to get the axe next year.

The Administration already has their list of people to blame.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 7:03:20 AM PST by lurk
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To: ken in texas
they'll tell you how the evil Republicans sabotaged everything.

Your post is one day late. Jay Carney has already started saying that exact thing.

18 posted on 12/17/2013 7:04:45 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Capt. Tom

I simply do not know how some people can absorb that cost, and go so meekly to the slaughter, he must have a hefty take home salary, but still

apparently Obama is deluded and thinks everyone except his peeps has a lot of extra money they don’t need


19 posted on 12/17/2013 7:18:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Capt. Tom

Good Lord! My company owns many insurance companies as well, but NOT HEALTH CARE related. Fire/Home/Auto/major marine/bail bonds, etc. What I have noticed is we are currently buying up many, small insurance companies and they are letting almost all of the workers go, but we get the extra work with no new employees. Not complaining though. I stay very, busy and have a job w/ good insurance. Good enough these days.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 7:28:28 AM PST by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: sevinufnine

Wow... interesting.

My auto insurer sells health insurance. When my employer-provided goes up, I quit, buy through my agent and get two hobby-jobs instead of one work-me-to-death job.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 7:37:22 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Auto insurance rates will likely also go up because part of the cost covers treatment for injuries.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 7:37:50 AM PST by buridan
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To: Capt. Tom

The plans I am seeing are not only more expensive, the coverage has changed from traditional policies. The basic physical is covered up front, however if you have to see the doctor for any other reason, you must meet the deductible first before the doctor co pay applies. Same for drugs, you have to meet the deductible before co pays apply . When you add in the cost of insurance plus the deductible, most will pay 10 thousand or more before co pays and maximum out of pocket kicks in. Whoever dreamed up these plans must have been working with the Insurance companies, because they are gonna make a killing.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 7:39:45 AM PST by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: rarestia

Good.

Drastic changes to off-calendar year plans are going to help keep the collapse of Obamacare in the public eye through 2014 and into the midterm elections.


24 posted on 12/17/2013 7:44:23 AM PST by tanknetter (L)
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To: Heart of Georgia
I can’t believe the insurance companies aren’t making sure their customers are aware of this fact. Were they threatened?

"We're just doing what the White House tells us."

"We're just doing what the White House tells us."

Repeat over and over, as necessary.

25 posted on 12/17/2013 7:48:28 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My premiums are going up 33% next year and so are my deductibles. As an example, if I go to the ER today, I would pay a $150 co-pay if not admitted. Next year? $250 co-pay PLUS 20% of the total bill.

These deductibles and co-pays are going to cause far more bankruptcies than catastrophic events because being nailed by these exorbitant co-pays and deductibles is going to be a far more common experience.


26 posted on 12/17/2013 7:48:56 AM PST by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: ken in texas
You probably won't get one. Instead they'll tell you how the evil Republicans sabotaged everything. /s

Sadly, that /sarc tag isn't necessary...

27 posted on 12/17/2013 7:52:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: tanknetter

They’re all saying, “See, Obamacare is in place, and there’s no change in our plans!”

I reply that we’re in an offset plan and locked into the pre-ACA rates. Next year will be different.

They just laugh it off.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 7:55:14 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Tsunami of pissed off voters coming.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 8:09:51 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: rarestia

Doubt you’ll see an apology.

What’s more likely is, they’ll blame YOU!

Get back to us on this, will you?

CA....


30 posted on 12/17/2013 8:15:36 AM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: rarestia
I reply that we’re in an offset plan and locked into the pre-ACA rates. Next year will be different.

I promise you are right. And it sucks.

And once you take that hit, you aren't done. Expect the hits to just keep coming from all directions once this is fully implemented.

We were told at our annual HC meeting that our insurance is still being accepted by the Cleveland Clinic. However, our HC rep said that this is subject to change year by year.

People are going to be on the same health-plan and have to start verifying all over again whether or not the doctors and facilities they normally use will still accept them.

We're taking the initial Obamacare shock starting on Jan 1. However, she prepared us that it will probably be worse next year.
31 posted on 12/17/2013 8:20:59 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Watching Democrats in Congress over the next few months will be the most fun you’ll ever have with your pants on.


32 posted on 12/17/2013 8:24:01 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Heart of Georgia
Were they threatened? (redundant question)

No, they were complicit. Higher prices and a bigger covered pool means more cash flow. More cash flow means more money to play with on the stock markets. That means more leverage and more profit.

This is what fascism looks like.

33 posted on 12/17/2013 8:29:45 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The only way I see this clown getting past the Nov 2014 election cycle is to call for martial law and postpone the election.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/22/second-federal-judge-skeptical-about-legal-case-for-nsa-phone-record-collection

Second Federal Judge 'Skeptical' About Legal Case for NSA Phone-Record Collection

Nothing - absolutely NOTHING - is beyond the scope of Pres ValJar and her clown mascot thug from Chi-town.
34 posted on 12/17/2013 8:34:59 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Heart of Georgia

The insurance industry was one of the major promoters of Obamacare.

Obamacare promised to deliver customers to the insurance industry by force of law.

Insurance companies would not need to advertise, market, or sell insurance. The government would force people to buy their product.

The insurance industry is one of the villians in this nightmare.


35 posted on 12/17/2013 8:53:38 AM PST by Oak Grove (H)
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To: vekzen
“Obamacare is the Law of the Land”
John Boehner

What do you get when you combine Team Red with Team Blue?

Team Royal Purple...

36 posted on 12/17/2013 9:12:39 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: rarestia
They just laugh it off.

Until The Cluebat cometh...

37 posted on 12/17/2013 9:19:47 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: mmichaels1970

“I can’t believe the public at large is allowing this.”

I can. Surely you left off the “/s/” tag. The public at large is a mass of stupid sheep.


38 posted on 12/17/2013 9:21:48 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: mmichaels1970
Ours went up 25%.

You're one of the lucky ones. Most are going up much more than that.

39 posted on 12/17/2013 9:21:53 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
his flawed promise

The WaPost's writer couldn't bring himself to call Obama's "flawed promise" what everyone over the age of 6 knows it actually was, a flat-out monstrous lie.

40 posted on 12/17/2013 9:25:25 AM PST by epow
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To: juma
When you add in the cost of insurance plus the deductible, most will pay 10 thousand or more before co pays and maximum out of pocket kicks in. Whoever dreamed up these plans must have been working with the Insurance companies, because they are gonna make a killing.

I don't believe most people understand the effect a deductable has.
You could probably get the best insurance coverage in the world for a mere $50/month................if you were willing to tke an $80,000/year deductable. - Tom

41 posted on 12/17/2013 9:35:33 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Hoodat

Yes. Yes we did.


42 posted on 12/17/2013 9:45:11 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Scary thing is that the Dems know it and have been preparing for years in case that happens.

I guess we’ll just have accept our side winning some for the wrong reasons. RINOs will clean up.


43 posted on 12/17/2013 9:48:49 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: mmichaels1970

When do We The People refuse DeathCare?


44 posted on 12/17/2013 9:53:38 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: epow
his flawed promise
The WaPost's writer couldn't bring himself to call Obama's "flawed promise" what everyone over the age of 6 knows it actually was, a flat-out monstrous lie.

Like Jimmy Carter's "incomplete success" when our rescue mission failed in Iran.

45 posted on 12/17/2013 10:04:53 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: mmichaels1970

meanwhile the leftists will be pretend this is more “affordable”, lol


46 posted on 12/17/2013 10:07:00 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One of our younger relatives is an exec for a medium size company west of the Mississippi.

A few months ago, he had a meeting to discuss future wages / benefits with the union thug reps, who represent the skilled labor employees of the company.

He walked out of the meeting after a few minutes. Their first demand was total coverage of health insurance benefits after 2014 when their contracts ran out.

Besides that, they wanted overtime for anytime any work day that went over 8 hours. Now, they get overtime after a 40 hour work week or the option of paid time off for the overtime when that job is over re overtime needs. That often results in 4 day work weeks for many after their overtime. Their workers like that, and their union thug chiefs hate it.

He refused to discuss the above with them, and reminded them that demands like these have forced companies into non union work places.


47 posted on 12/17/2013 10:19:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: henkster
"The public at large is a mass of stupid sheep."

And the remaining public which likes to talk a big game will do squat to stop this. Might as well rip the 1st and 2nd amendments from the constitution because they are useless right now.

48 posted on 12/17/2013 10:38:56 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: vekzen

John Boehner should be horsewhipped for undermining conservatives. He isn’t one one so he doesn’t care.


49 posted on 12/17/2013 10:40:48 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Heart of Georgia

Lefties are trying to make the insurance companies and the employers the scapegoats

so their precious Marxist healthcare system isn’t blamed.


50 posted on 12/17/2013 10:44:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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