Posted on 12/18/2013 5:02:22 AM PST by Kaslin
Hostages should be seen and not heard.
One thing we need to stop doing—hating on the insurance companies. Obama desperately wants to shift the outrage…and we’ve all hassled with insurance companies, but Obama’s long-term plan is to put them out of business. Then we will truly be helpless.
Well said. Everyone needs to focus on what the authoritarian Obama is doing and how health care will be when there is no recourse from a government which holds your life in its bureaucratic hands.
>>When will the insurers revolt?<<
“Sir the insurers are revolting.”
“You betcherass — they stink on ice!”
They'll take what they can get and if that means providing free advertising for obamacare then free advertising it is.
The option is endless litigation in a kangaroo packed court and a smear job by the state run media.
“Of course, urging isn’t forcing. But as Avik Roy of Forbes notes, the difference is subtle. Also last week, HHS also announced last week that it will consider compliance with its suggestions when determining which plans to allow on the exchanges next year. A request from HHS is like being asked a “favor” by the Godfather; compliance is less than voluntary.”
That may be so, but in automated systems you can’t do whatever you want. They have no employees processing claims, it’s all computerized. Those who do not have policies will have their claims rejected.
Jonah Jonah Jonah
it’s so obvious
the insurance companies ARE IN ON IT
waiting for all that lovely government money to stream in....
waiting for all the new insureds FORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO PURCHASE THEIR PATHETIC PRODUCT
Don’t you believe if what the insurance companies were hawking was a good product people wouldn’t be FORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO BUY IT
the insurance companies are IN CAHOOTS with the government
Obama is definitely trying to shift the outrage, and while insurance companies certainly deserve some of the blame for not standing up to Obama and trying to prevent Obamacare while there was time, I think many of them were not only greedy for the handouts he promised them, but actually afraid to oppose him. Remember, they had already had his attacks on private industry during the first term as an example of how he would use the government to destroy any opposition, and I think some of the companies simply felt that all was lost and there obviously was not enough political or popular support to protect them.
We’ve never before seen a government so set to destroy private businesses or even an entire industry.
The 20% markup on cost might be a clue. Do you think the feds have a real shot at auditing the charges? Insurance execs are all pissing their pants over the thought of mega profits.
I think it's a little more complicated than this.
I've said all along that the long-term goal of the insurers is to get out of the business completely. An insurance pool can't be sustained for long under the upside-down demographic profile of this country, so they knew damn well they were going to be driven out of business anyway. Who wants to be an insurance carrier in an era when a disproportionate number of your customers are in the 40-65 age group and facing the peak years of their claims?
All we're seeing here is the whole house of cards collapsing sooner than anyone really expected.
It’s a tax code benefit versus current revenue. My guess is that the execs will keep their mouths shut.
Insurers, Doctors, and Hospitals, have all been blackmailed into either silence or support.
The IRS is a terrible weapon to waste.
Our health care payment system has been pretty much a giant unguided missile and what the ACA did was provide a spark to the middle of the fuel tank. Who knows what piece is going to land where when the smoke finally clears? I don't know, but it's not going to be the result that the libs envisioned.
One anecdote was of a woman who believed the promise of keeping her doctor.
After she signed up, she was looking for her doctor among the choices and didn’t find him.
She went to his office and they called in to ask how to get her doctor on the list.
The answer was “that information is confidential”.
They put up with crap for a while longer and see how it goes. They can come out great in the end
1) Mandated purchases of crappy insurance
2) Additional sales of “useful” insurance supplements (access to larger doc networks & the best hospitals, better drug coverage, lower deductible etc)
3) Turn the MLR around and use it to request 20% higher premiums than medical costs. Then jack up medical costs (stop negotiating tough with providers) and blame congress & the regulators for the higher premiums. Or, if regulators don’t accept the higher premiums point out what coverage the “death panel” regulators won’t let them provide.
4) Use “it’s the ACA’s fault” as an excuse for almost anything customers complain about. Whether or not that’s true is almost impossible for any consumer to find out.
They have to put up with a lot of crap now but can make more money and blame the ACA for a long time if they handle it right. Alternatives that would put more control in consumer/patients’ hands and drive down medical costs will likely cost insurers a lot.
Anyone see Chris Wallace’s interview of Ezekiel Emanuel? The smarmy bastard tried every rhetorical trick he could to put a shine on the Obamacare sneaker, but I liked his eventual answer to Chris’s question about whether enough young people will sign up to make the system actuarily viable. Zeke’s response was telling: young people would start to sign up in droves when they saw what a good deal they’d be getting due to subsidies. In other words, he expects people to sign up when it’s to their advantage, while the redistributive economics of the system require the people who are getting statistically screwed to pay into it to make it work. The insurance companies are going to be announcing double-digit annual price-hikes for quite awhile.
Insurance Industry = Unindicted Co-Conspirators of Obamacare
You know everytime I have a prescription filled they know exactly what insurance I have, whether it is up to date or not, what meds they will cover, and the copay.
It is all automated.
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