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Second Amendment Stand-off
Absolute Rights ^ | 12/19/2013 | Bob Barr

Posted on 12/19/2013 4:19:45 AM PST by markomalley

John Cooke holds two 30-round magazines in his hands. In one hand is a 30-round magazine purchased before July 1st, when Colorado’s new gun laws took effect and banned purchases of magazines larger than 15-rounds. In his other hand is a 30-round magazine that “maybe” (Cooke is not getting into specifics) was purchased after the deadline. Two magazines, virtually identical in every aspect, except one is legal and the other is not.

Cooke, who serves as Sheriff of Colorado’s Weld County, says that’s exactly his point. His deputies cannot enforce the law if the law is so vague as to make it practically impossible to distinguish what’s legal from what is illegal. Therefore, Cooke, along with all but seven of Colorado’s 62 elected Sheriffs, are suing to block the law.

Last Saturday marked the one-year anniversary of the tragic shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. In the year since a lone deranged individual took the lives of 20 children and six adults, more than 1,500 gun bills have been considered by state legislatures across the country. According to USA Today, 109 of these measures became law; adding to President Obama’s recent 23 Executive actions related to control of firearms. Yet, to the dismay of Democrats, many of the laws are having the opposite effect.

Citizens are rebelling, and Democrats are losing their jobs.

In Colorado, for example, two elected Democrats already have been recalled as a direct result of their support of the new gun ban; and a third has resigned to avoid recall. The recall votes were successful despite gun control organizations (including one run by outgoing New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg) outspending Second Amendment activists seven-to-one. Even tens of millions of dollars was not enough to save Democrats from pro-gun constituents infuriated with the unconstitutional measures.

Even when not successful, recall elections are sending a loud message. In Exeter, Rhode Island, four of the five town council members nearly faced a similar fate last week as the town decided whether to recall the officials for anti-Second Amendment votes.

The gun industry is fighting back against anti-gun laws, as well. Earlier this year, I wrote about how gun manufactures were taking stands against new gun laws in their home states. Olympic Arms, for example, refused to sell recently-banned items to police and government officials, so long as private citizens were prohibited from possessing the same items. Other companies have moved their business operations to more gun-friendly states. PTR Industries left Connecticut for South Carolina, taking 40 jobs with it. “They are not feeling loved right now in Connecticut,” South Carolina State Representative Alan Clemmons, who helped bring PTR to the Carolinas, told the New York Timesadding, “we’re delighted to have them.”

Dozens of other gun manufacturers are considering similar moves, enticed by offers from pro-gun governors -- largely from southern states -- who welcome the added jobs and revenues. According to the NRA, Connecticut-based Stag Arms CEO Mark Malkowski said he had “about one hundred offers” to relocate to a new state.

Congressional Democrats are using their state colleagues as the canary in the coalmine for gun legislation, and the results are not positive for them. This is perhaps why, following last week’s school shooting at Arapahoe High School in Centennial, Colorado that was miraculously limited in its scope, Democrats have remained largely silent. This differs from previous shooting tragedies after which gun control advocates began sending fundraising emails even before the crime scenes were fully secure.

The Arapahoe shooter took his own life within two minutes of starting his rampage, and after being cornered by an armed guard placed at the school -- a safety measure proposed by the NRA following the Newtown shooting. Even though the proposal for having trained and armed personnel at schools was loudly derided by the Left, having an armed guard at the school in Arapahoe saved lives.

Citizens and legislators at all levels of government, in conjunction with firearms retailers and manufacturers, are fighting back as never before against the relentless push by gun control advocates to infringe our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms. This is good news for all Americans, whether they be gun owners or not. Standing up for the Bill of Rights is never wrong.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 12/19/2013 4:19:45 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Even though the proposal for having trained and armed personnel at schools was loudly derided by the Left, having an armed guard at the school in Arapahoe saved lives.

But it isn't about saving lives. It's about creating a country "where only the police and military are armed." This is the wet dream of every statist (R and D) - to have a population of defenseless sheep that can be shorn and manipulated at will (the will of those in charge). A population where no resistance is possible no matter what insane measures are passed is ideal if you're in the government and you have marxist ideas that you want to try (no matter those ideas fail EVERY time they're tried)

2 posted on 12/19/2013 4:29:03 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: markomalley

As I’ve said before, if you are for gun control you are: a) willfully and woefully ignorant of the facts regarding legal firearms use in America; b) a sociopath who enjoys the idea of people getting hurt; c) a wanna-be fascist that likes the idea of a disarmed populace you can control. There are no other choices, you pro gun control lib lurkers take note, this is you. I hope you are just in the first category, but statistically I know some of you are in b and or c too, a little or a lot.


3 posted on 12/19/2013 4:35:20 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: markomalley

If police officers are willing to flip off big brother’s edicts, here’s hoping our soldiers can do the same if it ever comes down to that.


4 posted on 12/19/2013 5:18:16 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: markomalley
Two magazines, virtually identical in every aspect, except one is legal and the other is not.

I recently bought a magazine from the Clinton era ban that is marked "Law Enforcement Use Only", even though it's nearly used up, specifically because it has those words on it.

5 posted on 12/19/2013 5:39:05 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: markomalley

I have been wanting to get an AR, and have wondered if I can drive north to Wyoming to get standard cap mags for it. I want to ask some of the folks in the local gun shops if I could, but doubt that they even know the answer.


6 posted on 12/19/2013 5:47:58 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: from occupied ga
But it isn't about saving lives. It's about creating a country "where only the police and military are armed."

I slightly disagree. "...only police, military, and criminals..." will be armed. Criminals, even of low political affiliation, are often useful to insurgent tyrannical regimes in destroying the existing order. Besides, in this country, Obama's identified favorite groups are disproportionately involved in criminal activity.

7 posted on 12/19/2013 6:25:13 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ThunderSleeps
For your consideration:

Marbury v. Madison

It is also not entirely unworthy of observation that, in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land, the Constitution itself is first mentioned, and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution, have that rank.
Thus, the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthensthe principle, supposed to be essential to all written Constitutions, that
a law repugnant to the Constitution is void,
and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.

As well as:

title 26 USC 5845 firearm see the definition of what is exactly a "Firearm"

8 posted on 12/19/2013 6:42:49 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I don’t disagre with your sentiment, but I was quoting Atlanta’s former late and extremely unlamented mayor Jackson and his spiritual twin Sara Brady, both members of handgun control.


9 posted on 12/19/2013 7:28:36 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: RandallFlagg

Colorado law is obviously different than Wyoming law...

I would say you’d be breaking the law if you brought the hardware into Colorado if they have a ban on those magazines, and AR’s...

I do not have the statutes in front of me, but someone familiar with Colorado law should be able to clear up any ambiguities, or mistakes I have stated...

You learn something new everyday as far as I am concerned, and if I am wrong, that’s on me...No problem...


10 posted on 12/19/2013 7:29:36 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I’m not sure what you mean by “standard cap mags”, but you can go into Murdocks here in Wyo and buy 30-rnd PMAG magazines by the dozen.


11 posted on 12/19/2013 8:04:17 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: 3boysdad

SWEET! I’ll have to look them up.
Thank you.


12 posted on 12/19/2013 8:05:47 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: 3boysdad

OH! And a 30-round capacity magazine is a standard capacity magazine.

;-)


13 posted on 12/19/2013 8:06:35 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Quoting myself -

the only reason someone would want to remove your ability to resist deadly force
is that they foresee a time where they will use deadly force
to impose their will on you.


14 posted on 12/19/2013 8:07:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RWB Patriot

I suspect Obama knows enough history, the untrusted roman legions were kept occupied fighting wars away from Rome.


15 posted on 12/19/2013 9:51:08 PM PST by Drake_Burrwood ("It happened because I wasn't there, I am NRA")
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To: 3boysdad

Is this it?
http://www.murdochs.com/


16 posted on 12/20/2013 6:46:51 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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