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To: exDemMom; All
you believe in the EPA and govenrment. that is the first mistake to trust in government

you believe that without the EPA then the free market, individuals, lawsuits (courts ok i agree with courts and lawsuits but not much more gov) , all of us can't survive or take care of the environment. you are wrong

no the EPA is not needed. people can sue a company if they “pollute” so that is a deterrent . you people assume that business are out to destroy the “environment” , pollute , harm people or that they don't care if they do and only your god , government can save us and the environment from the evil capitalist private companies.

a business wants to produce a good product to get customers , stay in business. polluting a lake will get them sued and ruin the reputation. they work on building their name. you and democrats think only the EPA can keep you safe. no you are wrong . the government is the threat to our freedom and our prosperity and they are crippling businesses along with all the other gov agencies and their dumb regulations are hurting businesses and chasing them away to China

the EPA is getting ready to shut down coal power plants which will kill people

you either trust government or you don't . I don't. you do . I'm a Republican . if you trust government more than you trust the free market(capitalism) then you are a marxist. not YOU but i mean you in general.

11 posted on 12/20/2013 10:23:37 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Democrat_media
you believe in the EPA and govenrment. that is the first mistake to trust in government

The libertarian ideal of a society where there is no government, no regulations, no laws, etc., is as impossible as the socialist ideal of a society with complete government control of every aspect of life. The reality is somewhere in the middle. Without government regulation and enforcement of certain rules, manufacturers can and do pollute, and get away with it. If you don't believe that, try reading about the pollution in China.

The reality is that the environment in the US did not clean itself and factories did not spontaneously install pollution controls before environmental regulations went into effect. While it's nice to believe that factories that pollute would be sued and so forth if there were no government regulations, the reality is that those factories happily sell their products all over the world to people who don't know and don't care about how much pollution they generate. This idea that lawsuits will keep them in check also begs the question of how anyone can sue without a government providing the legal framework for and enforcement of such action, but that's another issue.

True conservatives recognize that government is absolutely necessary, and that the Constitutional mandate *is* to provide for the general welfare of the people--meaning protecting them from threats such as pollution and unsafe food and drugs. Recognizing that reality is not the same as believing that government is the answer to everything, and that every single problem that arises is an excuse to grow government. Government must be kept in check and tightly restricted to its Constitutional duties.

13 posted on 12/21/2013 3:57:44 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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