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South Sudan: US Military Aircraft Hit By Rebels
news.sky.com ^ | December 21, 2013

Posted on 12/21/2013 5:47:18 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

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1 posted on 12/21/2013 5:47:18 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

What’s the connection between South Sudan, Benghazi and obama ?


2 posted on 12/21/2013 5:52:44 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Typical. African strongman takes power, decides all the goodies belong to him. For the rest of his natural life. Result? Civil war.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 5:53:31 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Wonder how American mothers feel about their sons being sent to Africa to die under UN auspices. Also if an American serviceman dies under UN command is he buried with a UN flag draped over his coffin?


4 posted on 12/21/2013 5:54:07 AM PST by allendale
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To: ilovesarah2012
I shall call this Airlift "Operation Maddox and Turner Joy"

Whatever stretches the military even thinner.

5 posted on 12/21/2013 5:55:51 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: ilovesarah2012

And we are there why? How long before we escalate our involvement? What is there that is of such great interest to Big Business or of great strategic importance?


6 posted on 12/21/2013 5:57:10 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

One Black Dictator helping another.
Africa is so much better after the blacks kicked the whites out, isn’t it?


7 posted on 12/21/2013 6:01:35 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I wonder where the rebels got their weapons.


8 posted on 12/21/2013 6:02:35 AM PST by grania
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To: ilovesarah2012

And we are there BECAUSE??????????????????


9 posted on 12/21/2013 6:08:23 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: ilovesarah2012

They’ve shot down a Russian chopper killing four crew exactly a year ago there. December 21 seems to be a special day in South Sudan for that matter.


10 posted on 12/21/2013 6:10:26 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: ilovesarah2012

The illegal war in Africa is because Obama is getting personal revenge for his father.

Post that and liberals will say that is what Bush did in Iraq.

Then you tell them that since Obama did it, and they are not complaining, that they have to stop complaining about Bush doing it.

Liberal heads explode.


11 posted on 12/21/2013 6:12:01 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Sounds like you’re talking about America.


12 posted on 12/21/2013 6:16:25 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: allendale

Apparently the Michael New case revealed that could very well be.


13 posted on 12/21/2013 6:20:01 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft; KC_Lion
"What is past is prologue." Gulf of Tonkin. March, 1964:

...Having operated off the west coast for 2 years, from March 1962, Maddox departed Long Beach 13 March 1964 for another tour with the 7th Fleet. At first steaming with fast carrier groups in the Sea of Japan and the East China Sea, she headed south 18 May and established patrol off the coast of South Vietnam.

On 31 July she commenced the first leg of a patrol in the Tonkin Gulf. Initially a routine patrol, it developed into a defensive action with global repercussions. On 2 August, Maddox, cruising in international waters, was closed in a torpedo run by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats. During the ensuing skirmish, in which torpedoes were launched at Maddox, the destroyer put two of the Communist boats out of action with direct hits.

This attack, at first assumed to have been in error, was proven deliberate within 48 hours. On the 4th, North Vietnamese patrol boats again attack Maddox, which by this time had been joined by Turner Joy. Early detection and skillful evasion permitted the destroyers to break contact with the first assault units sent against them on that date. But, little over an hour later, enemy torpedo boats closed in again, launching torpedoes. Maddox commenced firing starshells for illumination, while Turner Joy opened fire on the attacking boats. The fighting continued for 21⁄2 hours before being broken off by the North Vietnamese. Retaliation in the form of airstrikes on North Vietnamese patrol boat bases and their supporting oil storage depots came within a few hours. For this action both ships were awarded the Navy Unit Commendation. Following the incident, the destroyers returned to their patrol, completing it on the 8th. Maddox then resumed carrier operations until departing for Long Beach 17 September."

14 posted on 12/21/2013 6:34:43 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: knarf
What’s the connection between South Sudan, Benghazi and obama ?

Tribalism is the underlying tension in most of sub-Saharan Africa.

As far as I can tell, the current Sudanese fighting is Dinka tribesmen fighting Nuer tribesman.

15 posted on 12/21/2013 6:44:28 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: Zhang Fei
Yep. All the aid that goes to Africa goes directly into the hands of the dictator thugs while the people suffer.

Stop the aid and military support and let them stew in their own feces. They'll figure it out.

16 posted on 12/21/2013 6:50:39 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: BwanaNdege

As I understand it, US military were posted to South Sudan in order to evacuate American citizens from harms way. A tribal conflict endangered their lives.


17 posted on 12/21/2013 6:50:41 AM PST by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Why are we messing with these clowns? The United States should now make it a point to go after these guys and crush them. Start by sending in a squad of A-10’s and pummel them with 20mm cannon fire. That would make them think before firing on US aircraft in the future. We should certainly do something.


18 posted on 12/21/2013 7:18:48 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

You have apparently forgotten who the CIC is.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 7:22:40 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Erik Latranyi
It is always good to remember that Obama’s ancestral Muslim tribe in Kenya were never the victims of slavery.They were the slavers who sold African slaves to the Arabs, Europeans and customers in North and South America.
20 posted on 12/21/2013 7:27:05 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

As I understand, Sudan once had a sizable Christian population. Large segments have been martyred or escaped to other African nations. Those remaining are in South Sudan.

Here is a plea for prayers:
http://anglicanalliance.org/news/18634/church-leaders-in-juba-call-for-peace-and-reconciliation-after-fighting-leaves-more-than-400-dead


21 posted on 12/21/2013 7:32:35 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: PowderMonkey

For this action both ships were awarded the Navy Unit Commendation.

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And my Academy graduate uncle who was the skipper of the Maddox was awarded a Bronze Star and sent to run an ROTC at a Texas university. End of career! There was another officer aboard in charge of the mission - intelligence gathering - who outranked my uncle. I never learned what happened to his career.


22 posted on 12/21/2013 7:40:24 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

It’s a squadron (not squad) of A-10s. The avenger cannon is 30MM (not 20MM). The USAF wants to retire A-10’s ASAP.


23 posted on 12/21/2013 7:53:15 AM PST by pfflier
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To: cunning_fish
They’ve shot down a Russian chopper killing four crew exactly a year ago there. December 21 seems to be a special day in South Sudan for that matter

Between the incompetent administration, which announced we were going in, and the media, which carried the administration's water and published we were going in, is it any wonder our forces were compromised?

24 posted on 12/21/2013 8:05:29 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Prayers for the wounded.


25 posted on 12/21/2013 8:32:05 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Pan_Yan

The point is there shouldn’t be any wounded. Obama is quite the warmonger.


26 posted on 12/21/2013 8:39:39 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Zhang Fei

Typical. African strongman takes power, decides all the goodies belong to him. For the rest of his natural life. Result? Civil war.


Are you describing the Sudan or the United States?


27 posted on 12/21/2013 8:45:37 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: allendale

Good question. . .and I found an interesting article a while back that addresses your thought.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj01/spr01/vorspr01.html


28 posted on 12/21/2013 8:46:55 AM PST by Hulka
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

“a squad of A-10’s and pummel them with 20mm cannon fire”

That would be a ‘flight’ (or squadron) of A-10’s and hammer them with their Fist of Gawd 30mm round (not the 20mm pop-gun found on lesser fighters): http://www.hightech-edge.com/wp-content/uploads/20mm-30mm-comparison.jpg

;-)


29 posted on 12/21/2013 8:50:06 AM PST by Hulka
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To: pfflier

A-10’s funded through 2030. Air Force wants to retire them earlier but because of JSF problems, won’t be able to.


30 posted on 12/21/2013 8:51:42 AM PST by Hulka
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To: ilovesarah2012

The undocumented Tyrant takes America into yet another war.


31 posted on 12/21/2013 8:57:36 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is a military mission to evacuate U.S. citizens trapped by a civil war in another country. A traditional use of our armed services and a use which I very much support. It is very different from intervention on one side or the other.


32 posted on 12/21/2013 9:16:53 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is a military mission to evacuate U.S. citizens trapped by a civil war in another country. A traditional use of our armed services and a use which I very much support. It is very different from intervention on one side or the other.


33 posted on 12/21/2013 9:16:53 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

You can say that again!


34 posted on 12/21/2013 9:17:45 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: Yorlik803

One Black Dictator helping another.

I think you spelled that word wrong, I believe it should be “dicktator” and always with a small d for accuracy.


35 posted on 12/21/2013 9:19:14 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: mark502inf

President Obama Orders US Troops to South Sudan

President Obama on Thursday announced that he has sent a team of combat-ready soldiers to the country of South Sudan amid growing violence and increasing talk of “civil war” in the African nation.


What does “combat-ready” mean?


36 posted on 12/21/2013 9:24:56 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Stars & Stripes says FOUR Americans have been injured.


37 posted on 12/21/2013 9:55:59 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Time to do an "Arc Light" on that section of S. Sudan.

Oh, I forgot who is in the White Hut...

5.56mm

38 posted on 12/21/2013 9:57:41 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: pfflier
BILL BLOCKS AIR FORCE FROM RETIRING A-10

The bipartisan defense budget that passed through the House Thursday includes strict language mandating the Air Force not execute any plans to retire the A-10 Warthog. The legislation specifically blocks the Air Force from spending any money to divest A-10s through calendar year 2014.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh has said the service needs to retired older, single mission aircraft like the A-10 in order to reserve funding for newer aircraft like the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which is slotted to take over the A-10’s close air support role.

In service since the 70’s, the twin-engine jet aircraft is designed to provide ground troops with close air support by using its armored fuselage for protection, flying low to the ground to track and hit enemies and firing deadly 30mm rotary cannons.

Lawmakers have pushed back against any talk of the A-10’s retirement. Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., blocked the nomination of the Air Force secretary, citing her concerns about Air Force’s A-10 plans and Defense Department struggles to bring the Joint Strike Fighter online. . .

http://defensetech.org/2013/12/13/bill-blocks-air-force-from-retiring-a-10-warthog/

39 posted on 12/21/2013 10:15:09 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

how many outlets will identify these rebels as MUSLIMS


40 posted on 12/21/2013 10:15:39 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The New York Times and Washington Post are both leading with this story on their websites.

http://www.nytimes.com/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/


41 posted on 12/21/2013 10:40:05 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: BwanaNdege
I was being oblique.

Wasn't Stevens trying to clean up some lost(?) grenade launchers .. and isn't this an account of planes being shot at while in the air ?

And how better to confuse anyone trying to connect dots than to have dots that would be absurd if they were connected ...

Unless you were caught and you HAD to flush millions of dollars of perfectly good, saleable drugs down the toilet ...

Just thinkin' outside of the box

42 posted on 12/21/2013 11:09:41 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: GeronL

My guess - none.


43 posted on 12/21/2013 12:17:40 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The Airfarce must have its own money mill. F-35’s are hugely expensive campared to Warthogs. And the Hogs are really good at what they do including being reliable-—something not proven for F-35’s yet. I’d hate to see them go but that’s just me. I think P-51’s still have a mission if we had a few but that’s just me——2,000 horsepower coming in low and slow with sixguns flaming was enough to back off the entire German and Jap armies. Should be enough to re-educate the occasional band of muzzie dirtbagz.


44 posted on 12/21/2013 12:36:59 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1
Maybe the Army and the Marine Corps adopt the A-10. It was built to support their ground pounders.
45 posted on 12/21/2013 1:02:12 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I suspect that they would rather just go with drones, than try and maintain the aged A-10 fleet.


46 posted on 12/21/2013 2:26:59 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

[I suspect that they would rather just go with drones, than try and maintain the aged A-10 fleet.]

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It’s all going in that direction. Robotics will take over before we know it.


47 posted on 12/21/2013 2:47:21 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The Air Force has wanted to retire the A-10 since they got them. They should give them to the Army and Marine Corps where they belong. Grunts love the aircraft.

The Air Force will resist drones until the bitter end.

Most of the Air Force brass view themselves as Top Gun types and that is often far more important than the mission.

That is my .02. It’s been a problem for a long time and it will continue to be a problem.


48 posted on 12/21/2013 3:18:00 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: JerseyanExile

I’ve long said that Congress should transfer the A-10 fleet and the budget for it to the Army and Marine Corps.

If they were modernized the A-10 would outperform any drones at the moment in terms of payload, firepower, and versatility. That might change soon, but the Air Force brass has never viewed the A-10 as having the “sex appeal” they desire.

I can tell you first-hand it was the favorite aircraft of the grunt and still is. The Hog is an awesome aircraft.


49 posted on 12/21/2013 3:22:29 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: BwanaNdege

I am continually amazed by how ignorant most Americans are about tribalism. It’s so wired into the DNA that Americans with the same identity invented their own forms with modern street gangs such as bloods and crips.

In my opinion, tribalism is the primary reason most of the third world remains a dysfunctional mess.


50 posted on 12/21/2013 3:32:02 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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