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NTSB: Officials still trying to determine Fuddy's cause of death
AP via Star Advertiser ^ | POSTED: 11:51 a.m. HST, Dec 20, 2013 LAST UPDATED: 12:59 p.m. HST, Dec 20, 2013 | By Jennifer Sinco Kelleher Associated Press

Posted on 12/21/2013 4:49:23 PM PST by F15Eagle

It could take some time before officials determine exactly how Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy died, said the lead investigator for the Molokai plane crash.

It's common for a cause of death not to be immediately known in these types of investigations, Hawaii-based National Transportation Safety Board investigator Jim Struhsaker said today.

Fuddy was the sole fatality out of nine people aboard the Makani Kai Air flight that crashed in the water soon after taking off from Kalaupapa on Dec. 11.

A passenger and the pilot have said they were shocked to hear she didn't survive because she seemed fine in the moments after everyone got out of the plane and waited in the water for help to arrive.

It's been a week since an autopsy was conducted.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: certificategae; certificategate; choomgangicide; fuddy; hawaii; lorettafuddy; naturalborncitizen; ntsb
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Silly people. Her center fuel tank exploded.

Or something. Well, who knows.

Just another one who won't have anything more to say.

Saw this posted yesterday but that poster apparently did something wrong with the post. Hope this is OK.

1 posted on 12/21/2013 4:49:23 PM PST by F15Eagle
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To: null and void; butterdezillion

Nothing to see here.

Move along sir/madam.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 4:49:57 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Choomgangicide, plain and simple.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 4:53:15 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: F15Eagle

Paging Vince Foster! Ah ‘what difference does it make’


4 posted on 12/21/2013 4:55:17 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

I made a small list a couple days ago of a few degrees from O - especially those concerned with his documents. Sure a lot of coincidences.


We could speak with Leiutenant Quayles Harris who saw O’s passport ...

Oh wait, he’s dead.

Well, we could speak with Andrew Breitbart ....

Oh wait, he’s dead.

We could speak with the assistant coroner who worked on Breitbart’s body ...

Oh wait, he’s dead.

We could speak with Donald Young of TUCC Chicago ...

Oh wait, he’s dead.

We could speak with Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy ....

Oh wait, SHE’s dead.

We could speak with O’s grandma Toots who was in Hawaii when he was born and had his BC in her apartment ....

Oh wait, SHE’s dead.

November 2, 2008. Yes, two days before the 2008 election.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 4:55:36 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Vaquero; Admin Moderator

It fit in the keywords, like my typo - maybe a friendly mod could remove the typo keyword.


6 posted on 12/21/2013 4:57:32 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: LucyT; Nachum

Dead Pool????


7 posted on 12/21/2013 4:57:51 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: F15Eagle

Fuddy was a Duddy?


8 posted on 12/21/2013 4:59:06 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: F15Eagle

.

rumor in some quarters has it that this was a suicide...


9 posted on 12/21/2013 4:59:57 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: F15Eagle
Yet to be determined natural causes obviously. < /S >
10 posted on 12/21/2013 5:00:13 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: F15Eagle

‘pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!”


11 posted on 12/21/2013 5:02:11 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Red Steel; rxsid

And a couple of additional pings


12 posted on 12/21/2013 5:06:19 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Something tells me her autopsy will result in a cremation.


13 posted on 12/21/2013 5:10:14 PM PST by struggle
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To: MeshugeMikey

Makes perfect sense.

Board a plane, survive a plane crash and then commit suicide all in one day.


14 posted on 12/21/2013 5:12:08 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: F15Eagle
They can't find a coroner brave enough to undertake this case. LOL

Andrew Breitbart’s coroner dead from suspected poisoning

15 posted on 12/21/2013 5:14:22 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: F15Eagle

Fuddy’s autopsy was done a few days ago but the results have not been released to the public.


16 posted on 12/21/2013 5:14:51 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: struggle
"Something tells me her autopsy will result in a cremation."

"We had to burn the body to see what was in it" - Coroner Nancy Pelosi

17 posted on 12/21/2013 5:16:10 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: struggle; F15Eagle; LucyT; butterdezillion; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; BIGLOOK
Something tells me her autopsy will result in a cremation.

My thoughts as well.

The coroner's days might be numbered as well.

18 posted on 12/21/2013 5:16:41 PM PST by thecodont
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To: F15Eagle

Could speak to any of the over 300 people on the Klinton body count but they’re dead.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 5:17:28 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Red Steel

They’re probably awaiting Benghazi Barry’s arrival so that he can tell them what Valerie Jarrette says they should say.


20 posted on 12/21/2013 5:17:29 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: struggle

“Something tells me her autopsy will result in a cremation.”

0bama’s in HI. Of course, it will.


21 posted on 12/21/2013 5:17:38 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: F15Eagle

Another speed bump for Obama, the LYING FRAUD, and his followers!


22 posted on 12/21/2013 5:20:00 PM PST by Balata
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To: F15Eagle
It's common for a cause of death not to be immediately known in these types of investigations...investigator Jim Struhsaker said today.

Oh, yeah, right...that's the ticket!

Cause of death...uh, uh.

Not immediately known...uh, you know.

Etc, etc, etc.

Humma, humma, humma, humma and yada yada.

Doncha know?

23 posted on 12/21/2013 5:21:05 PM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: F15Eagle

Could be simple heart failure. Or internal bleeding from impact shock, perhaps triggering some pre-existing condition.

It’s far fetched to think she was assassinated by somebody that was on the plane with her when it went down. Namely, if they were sabotaging the plane in order to kill her and not caring about collateral damage — wtf would they be on the plane then?


24 posted on 12/21/2013 5:21:16 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: F15Eagle

25 posted on 12/21/2013 5:26:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: OldSmaj
It's common for a cause of death not to be immediately known in these types of investigations...investigator Jim Struhsaker said today.

They won't know the actual cause of death until Valerie Jarrett informs them how to fill out the Death Certificate.


26 posted on 12/21/2013 5:29:19 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: BenLurkin


27 posted on 12/21/2013 5:30:26 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: 353FMG

its the new Chicago Underworld way


28 posted on 12/21/2013 5:30:49 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: BenLurkin
"The Pacific has had its way with it for five days," Struhsaker said.

Must have been loaded with barnacles by then.

29 posted on 12/21/2013 5:49:37 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: F15Eagle

Has anything about WHY she was on the plane out there?


30 posted on 12/21/2013 5:50:20 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Chode; BenLurkin

Ron Brown’s funeral.


31 posted on 12/21/2013 5:51:15 PM PST by LucyT ( If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: F15Eagle

suffocated in Fort marcy park dirt...poor girl!


32 posted on 12/21/2013 5:51:24 PM PST by terycarl (common sense rules overall)
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To: thecodont; butterdezillion
Engine Failure Blamed In Molokai CrashDec. 17 2013 6:10 PM

(Molokai, HI) -- Catastrophic engine failure is blamed for the deadly crash of a Cessna Caravan off Molokai on Wednesday. Makani Kai CEO Richard Schuman announced the news after talking to the pilot. The air service has been accident free for more than two decades.

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The Makani Kai Air cessna that crashed into waters off Molokai last week is on it's way back to Honolulu by boat.

It's been an all day mission to raise the sunken aircraft and recover the engine.

The NTSB is the lead on this recovery effort but a local company is doing the heavy lifting.

KHON2 checked with a marine salvage operator for insight who says it's a job that is not easy and full of challenges.

The Makani Kai Cessna Grand Caravan that crashed in waters off Kaluapapa, sank straight to the bottom, 50-70 feet down.

It's been underwater for a week but on Wednesday marine salvage company Sea Engineering, worked to pull the plane back up to the surface.

"It sounds it should be easy, but it's not that easy." Michael Parker said.

Parker owns another one of the largest marine salvage companies in Hawaii called Parker Marine.

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EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PUBLIC IS ASKED TO CONTACT PRATT AND WHITNEY CESSNA ENGINE MANUFACTURER REPORT TO THEM ALL EVIDENCE OF FOUL PLAY...

Please contact Pratt and Whitney asap, more discrepancies noted:

1. they are saying that the plane was intact when it submerged and all the damage was done by the ocean in one week, however reports show that there weren’t any significant water currents, therefore there should not have been such serious damage in one week.

2. Patrick Ross, president of Sea Engineering, stated that due to huge surf they could not do anything until December 18th

Sea Engineering is responsible for bringing the plane up from the ocean.

“Challenging part was waiting for the window, the weather window. We wanted to go last Saturday but the surf was huge and we weren’t able to,” Ross shared.

However this contradicts the statement by Richard Schuman, the President of Makani air, who on December 20th stated that they had divers working on reckage since December 11th. If the weather conditions were so bad, how could those divers work on the plane from December 11-18th.

“A layman person, if he looked at it right now and he didn’t know it was an airplane. He wouldn’t know it was an airplane. It doesn’t resemble anything towards an airplane,” Makani Kai Air President Richard Schuman said.

“The damage was done by the ocean, not by the impact, not by the crash. It was actually in one piece when we saw it the first time, which was last week Friday,” Sea Engineering President Patrick Ross said.

33 posted on 12/21/2013 5:58:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I think to check on a leper colony.


34 posted on 12/21/2013 5:58:47 PM PST by EEGator
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To: F15Eagle

COD - Iknowtomuchitis


35 posted on 12/21/2013 6:02:22 PM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Rumor in certain circles was that it was a “necklacecide.”

Or a “blackercide.”

I’ll get banned for sure.

MiniMandella was the queen of the NECKLACE. Its not even disputable.


36 posted on 12/21/2013 6:02:42 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Chode

Tony is still cracking jokes. he is a funny guy.


37 posted on 12/21/2013 6:04:30 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (i don't believe any court in this country is operating lawfully anyway)
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To: thecodont
previously posted image:

One thing is for certain; all the damage to the aircraft happened after it sank...

38 posted on 12/21/2013 6:09:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: F15Eagle

OKay,

Let me just insert my own sillyness:

Huma Mahmood Abedin: A Mudslimze BroHood HOODIE.

Listen folks, this BROAD is a problem.

I’ll stop now.

Hey YO! MUDSLIMZE, come for me if YOU DARE.

I AM ConradofMontferrat. I am HERE to take you on.


39 posted on 12/21/2013 6:14:44 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

You either need to take your drugs, or quit taking drugs.


40 posted on 12/21/2013 6:18:31 PM PST by EEGator
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To: F15Eagle

Fuddy was the sole fatality out of nine people. She was found in a park with a pistol in her left hand


41 posted on 12/21/2013 6:42:37 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: F15Eagle
Everybody says she looked fine just after the crash.
Incident happens with perfect timing for Zippy's Christamas vacation.

Worth looking in to.

42 posted on 12/21/2013 6:48:05 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: F15Eagle

If I remember correctly Ms Fuddy was overweight. A water ditching in fixed gear aircraft is always a crap shoot. As the landing gear caused the plane to nose in shortly after contact with the water the occupants would have been forced upward and forward in their seats. Probably 10-15G deceleration. Being overweight with only a lapbelt restraint Ms Fuddy probably died from abdominal injuries. The reason everyone thought she was OK was due to a little thing called shock made her even think she was OK.


43 posted on 12/21/2013 6:49:23 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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It seems most of the adults are having a day off today.


44 posted on 12/21/2013 6:49:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: LucyT
yup... Oscar worthy performance
45 posted on 12/21/2013 6:53:31 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for posting


46 posted on 12/21/2013 7:08:07 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Taking tea with Polonius.


47 posted on 12/21/2013 7:09:31 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Chode

The most despicable man to ever set foot in the ovl offic — until 2009.


48 posted on 12/21/2013 7:11:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: EEGator

And just what is your PROBLEM with what I posted?

Or do you just hate me to hate me?

Huma is a mudslimze pig. What problem do you have with that?


49 posted on 12/21/2013 7:14:13 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Funny, those seem to be pretty calm seas.


50 posted on 12/21/2013 7:14:19 PM PST by thecodont
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