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China developing 11,0000 ton 'super aircraft carrier' to rival US naval power
Asian News International (ANI) ^ | December 22, 2013

Posted on 12/22/2013 1:21:17 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

China has declared it is building a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

The size of the carrier will be huge enough to rival the biggest in United States naval service in the first move of a major new arms race.

According to China Daily, Chinese website qianzhan.com said 'top People's Liberation Army' sources as saying the 110,000-ton aircraft carrier should be launched by 2020.

The news follows rising tensions in the South and East China Seas.

The design of the carrier is reportedly based on drawings from the former Soviet Union of a nuclear-powered, 80,000 ton vessel capable of carrying 60 aircraft, the report added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; plan; usn
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1 posted on 12/22/2013 1:21:17 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bigger Battleships, that’s the answer.../s


2 posted on 12/22/2013 1:25:13 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We can pull China’s income stream any time we decide to pull our heads out and check what’s going on.

I know a good way for us to never have to pay China about $2 trillion in debt we owe it.

China just has to keep doing what it has been doing...


3 posted on 12/22/2013 1:25:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Huh? That’s smaller than a lot of commercial vessels. 110,000 tons? Good luck Chicoms. A nation doesn’t develop this sort of technology overnight.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 1:25:53 PM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So China is building an eleven-ten thousand ton aircraft carrier?


5 posted on 12/22/2013 1:26:53 PM PST by 1raider1
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nothing to worry about here. It will be made in China then it will break down the first time they take it out and no one will ever be able to get it running again. Just like all of the Chinese mopeds and four wheelers that have been sent to the US.


6 posted on 12/22/2013 1:28:35 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: sukhoi-30mki
China, at best, can use a carrier to intimidate its weaker neighbors. If China tries to project power on the open seas they may soon discover that their carrier is nothing more than a torpedo target.


7 posted on 12/22/2013 1:29:30 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

When the Russians tried this, with a considerably smaller carrier, the first one was barely out of the dock before it capsized. The second one didn’t make it out of the harbor.

This biggest problem is not in the engineering, but paradoxically, in having an experienced crew that can use the engineering. The US now has about 100 years of experience that was earned from the bottom up.

The next biggest problem is having a crew experienced in damage control. The lack of this cost the Japanese carriers, that could have been saved, in World War II.

The Russians never did figure out how to build a large carrier.


8 posted on 12/22/2013 1:31:04 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: cquiggy

Ha...maybe they stole the plans of the French carrier....and just scaled it up......snicker


9 posted on 12/22/2013 1:31:33 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought aircraft carriers were too vulnerable?


10 posted on 12/22/2013 1:31:54 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Seems to be quite a waste of resources. 110,000 tons? How big is the air group. If it’s only 60 aircraft, then that’s too much ship for too few planes. And it’s going to need an escort of nuclear powered guided-missile cruisers to screen it. And what far-flung overseas commitments does China have to warrant such a behemoth?


11 posted on 12/22/2013 1:32:02 PM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: tet68

“Bigger Battleships, that’s the answer.../s”

Bigger today does not mean more powerful. It means you’ve put too many eggs in one basket. We need many smaller carriers. Eventually, we need carriers that launch nothing but robotic planes.

When individual planes cost hundreds of millions or a billion dollars you can’t afford to lose even one. Ships that carry them will soon be too expensive for our crippled socialist economy. (That’s why the British have practically disposed of their military.)


12 posted on 12/22/2013 1:35:28 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki

To all of those people who believe that the Air Craft Carrier is obsolete,I guess the Chinese don’t believe that.


13 posted on 12/22/2013 1:36:05 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Weren’t our WWII carriers around 25-30,000 tons? That is the big ones.


14 posted on 12/22/2013 1:36:57 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Our military is not what it used to be and the future looks bleak.

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15 posted on 12/22/2013 1:37:27 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: darkwing104

The aircraft carrier probably will just orbit around Taiwan and an occasional trip around Japan.


16 posted on 12/22/2013 1:39:09 PM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
No named sources. no official CCP announcement.

I do not buy it at all.

They did announce last month that they would be building two conventionally powered STOBAR carriers similar to their existing carrier simultaneously at Dalian and Shanghai.

I put much more credence in that.

Duowei News:

China will construct two conventionally powered aircraft carriers in Dalian and Shanghai between 2014 and 2015, according to China's Central Military Commission as reported by Duowei News, an outlet run by overseas Chinese.

Under the Commission's Project 048, China aims to establish three carrier battle groups by 2020 so that all three major fleets of the PLA Navy will be able to carry out missions with the full support of an aircraft carrier. The two new Type 001A indigenous carriers will be updated versions of China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which was originally a Soviet-era Admiral Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier purchased from Ukraine in 1998. They will also likely be designed with a ski-jump ramp, according to Duowei.

Sources said that the General Equipment Department of the PLA has already signed a contract with the Beijing-based China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation to build the two carriers. The price of the two vessels is estimated to be worth US$9 billion.

China has yet to decide whether its J-31 stealth fighter will replace the J-15 to become the country's next generation carrier-based fighter, according to sources. The J-31 fighter entered service before the J-15, and is able to land or take off from the flight deck of the Liaoning. Sources said that a decision will only be made after the construction of the nation's second and third aircraft carriers is completed. This will give the PLA more time to think about the type of carrier-based fighter it will need in the future, the sources added.

17 posted on 12/22/2013 1:39:10 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

With all due respect, China is doing more than one thing at a time.

There is a (lot) of American manufacturing being done there.

They are getting stronger very quickly.


19 posted on 12/22/2013 1:42:03 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty, bring him back...)
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ping...
20 posted on 12/22/2013 1:44:38 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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