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Machinists to vote again on revised 777X contract
KING5 NEWS ^ | Dec 21 | KING5

Posted on 12/22/2013 10:51:33 PM PST by djf

The international headquarters of the Machinists union near Washington D.C. will force another vote on the revised 777X contract extension offer from Boeing.

Frank Larkin, spokesman for International Association of Machinists, said there will be a vote but “the date and details have not been finalized.”

Jan. 3 is a possibility, Larkin said. But he said they need to move quickly because of Boeing’s decision process.

If the Machinists vote yes on the contract, Boeing will honor the contract that will include building the 777X and wing in Everett.

The Portland IAM District Local 63, which is in the same bargaining unit as Puget Sound area district 751, posted information about a Jan. 3 vote on their website.

The post said a letter from International IAM President Tom Buffenbarger “explaining the terms in greater detail will be mailed in the coming days.”

The Portland website posted a link to the proposal on their website.

On their website, IAM District 751 said "Despite objections from District 751 leadership, the International has insisted on a vote on January 3rd to ensure you spend your holidays studying and debating a concessionary proposal that is largely unchanged from the one you rejected by a 2-to-1 margin on Nov. 13.

Because of the massive takeaways, the Union is adamantly recommending members reject this offer (more information to come). Members need to look at the facts of the economic destruction they would live under for the next 11 years -- without any opportunity to change those economic proposals or any other provision of the contract. And all of this comes as Boeing is experiencing record profits and backlogs, not to mention the $10 billion stock buy back the Boeing Board approved just this last week.

International President R. Thomas Buffenbarger ordered the vote over objections of 751’s elected officials, and Rich Michalski announced the Jan. 3rd vote to the Seattle Times on Saturday, Dec. 21.

THERE IS NO STOPPING THE VOTE; THEREFORE, YOUR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD AT THE VOTING POLLS!

The timing of the vote will make it very difficult to get information out to you and to recruit adequate volunteers to ensure members do not wait in line for hours to vote on Jan. 3. Voting for 31,000 people is a monumental task, and it is imperative as many members as possible get the opportunity to vote."

Workers that KING 5 News talked with said they're just glad there will be a vote.

“We weren't trying to get a yes or no vote, that's not the thing for this it was that we wanted a right to vote,” said Mauri Osterberg.

Some workers believe the deal is different enough to sway some of those no votes.. keeping current wage progression levels was a big issue for this group.

"The progression period of the last one you would have to wait, what 21 years 22 years to max out for new hires,” said Jeffrey Johnson.

Better dental benefits and language that keeps the 737 around until 2024 are also attractive bonuses. Where the company didn't budge was pensions.

"Everyone’s going to 401K, pensions are a thing of the past. They're at 11 percent of companies and it's declining,” said Osterberg.

The pension issue has been a big sticking point for union leaders - whether it's as important to the rank and file remains to be seen.

“ I don't see much changing but people still have the right to vote,” said Robert Brown.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Washington
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1 posted on 12/22/2013 10:51:33 PM PST by djf
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To: djf

Screw ‘em. Move the work to the more southern Boeing facilities at each earliest opportunities.


2 posted on 12/22/2013 11:03:54 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: djf

keep voting until it passes?

lolz


3 posted on 12/22/2013 11:05:32 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: djf

I could be wrong, but I think the vote will pass this time. The workers do not want to lose the new jobs.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 11:11:39 PM PST by rawhide
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To: djf

Time for Boeing to shift 777X production to NC and let the IAM union thugs wonder where their jobs went. The Seattle area would receive a huge dose of Karma (and so would a whole bunch of union thugs sent to the unemployment line).


5 posted on 12/22/2013 11:17:06 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: djf

The IAM is a hugely communistic organization. It’s no wonder they were adamant about refusing to let the membership vote on the Boeing proposal.


6 posted on 12/22/2013 11:25:49 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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Are these ‘machinists’ capable of being vindictive when they don’t get what they want?


7 posted on 12/22/2013 11:55:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

It was the local leadership? that rejected it.

The big boys are getting into the game now and basically ordering a vote.

Guess they figure

IAM working and making money for the union

sounds better than

IAM unemployed


8 posted on 12/23/2013 2:50:10 AM PST by djf (Global warming is a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: djf

Rivet ‘em!


9 posted on 12/23/2013 4:16:58 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: djf
vote it down and strike ya commie bastards, no guts no glory...
10 posted on 12/23/2013 4:46:18 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: djf
The pension issue has been a big sticking point for union leaders - whether it's as important to the rank and file remains to be seen. >

"401K's can't be looted as needed for political purposes? Then what good are they!" :)

11 posted on 12/23/2013 4:55:54 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: VeniVidiVici

That is true. My dad worked for Pratt Whitney and the IAM union vandalized my dad’s car when they went on strike. Dad was in management and they hated that.


12 posted on 12/23/2013 5:13:03 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Merry Christmas All)
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To: djf

As a conservative I have as much of a problem with the overpaid CEO managers (they are just hired hands that risk nothing, not entrepreneurs) of these multi-national non USA companies as I have with unions.

Why are the CEOs not “at will” employees to shareholders just like the CEOs want for the rank and file?

They call the shots and make strategic decisions and yet they get an iron clad labor contract that protects them even when they screw up. If they are good they won’t get fired. Instead they are fireproof and their pensions and wages locked in at high levels.

There is nothing conservative about that arrangement. It might be corporatist but not conservative.


13 posted on 12/23/2013 7:59:45 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: djf
Move the whole thing to South Carolina.Problem solved! Let those filthy union knuckledraggers shovel chicken poop at minimum wage.
14 posted on 12/23/2013 9:21:59 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: djf

I guess I’m confused why there’s such a big problem here. I thought the “workers” were just going to steal the factories when Boeing left the state and “convert” them into making VCRs, lectric buses, rainbow generators, Unicorn horseshoes and other useful stuff not used for war. At least according to Kshama Sawant, Seattle’s avowed Communist council member the voters just elected.


15 posted on 12/23/2013 10:44:40 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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