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To: foxfield

I am torn.

I appreciate that it is wrong for the government to spy on us.

But I still think the guy is a traitor.

But, I still want to know what else he stole.

But I hate that he ran to China and Russia.

Those are my concerns.


3 posted on 12/25/2013 2:52:13 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Consider that powerful people want him hanged for treason. What would you do? If you decide to run, where could you go. It has to be somewhere without an extradition treaty, and powerful enough to stand up to pressure from the U.S. to turn you over. It’s not like Snowden had a lot of choices, once he started down this path.


4 posted on 12/25/2013 3:02:26 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Vermont Lt

U.S. Gov has stopped having legitimate authority over its people, by all rights, we’re indistinguishable from an oppressed nation at this point.


5 posted on 12/25/2013 3:07:49 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Vermont Lt

I am also still undecided, but consider this-
Snowden is not being blamed for anyone’s death yet, but our idiot in chief Joe Biden has been blamed by some for causing the deaths of 29 US Navy Seals (of Seal team Six) because of HIS release of classified information. But then again, ol joe probably knows all about the setup involved....


8 posted on 12/25/2013 3:45:27 PM PST by matthew fuller (Pubbies need to replace Boehner with Gowdy if they want to survive.....)
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To: Vermont Lt

China and Russia were probably about the only countries the US wouldn’t dare to threaten militarily, risking heavy retaliation if it chose that path. More importantly, the governments of those countries aren’t malleable to foreign whim.

If you were Edward Snowden and your own government was after you for being a whistleblower, where would you go?


9 posted on 12/25/2013 3:45:53 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Vermont Lt
But I hate that he ran to China and Russia.

I don't consider him a traitor. Maybe if we weren't a communists controlled Federal Government things would be different. King Obama is a hard core communists black Muslim and I still do not believe that he had the legal right to Presidency. There have been many questionable killings against informers in America and he has the right to protect his life. As we find out more about the Government running our lives, it will be a thing of the past to be able to question without fear of our lives.

10 posted on 12/25/2013 3:50:39 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Vermont Lt

Snowden: Godless , constitution-worshipping libertarian traitor.

The only thing good you can say about him is that he is a libertarian which a has a Dr Jeckyl/Mr Hyde aspect to it
( two sided coin). Typically their focus on constitutional issues reign supreme over family issues(drug use, pornography, gay issues/marriage, freedom of religion).

Sorry to bother you.


14 posted on 12/25/2013 5:18:26 PM PST by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: Vermont Lt

He was in a complex flight to avoid extradition. He figured out his route. To go to friendly states of the US or even some neutral states, with bilateral agreements, would have meant his detention by local authorities and then remanding to the US Embassy and then probably spirited out by a CIA or DIA team on the pronto, to spend 40 years of his life in Federal Prison being forceably buggered nightly by a big fat hairy New Jersey hitman mobster named “Gus”. Unfortunately that left him with little opportunities. He chose the areas where the USGov could not get to him easily. Hong Kong (which is still a free economic system even though under the political control of the PRC, as a separate system) and then off to Russia (which was probably initially just a transit spot for him). It is debatable about what he did, but the countries he went to kind of make logical sense if one is escaping extradition, and that was his immediate objective, i.e. keeping either alive, or keeping the cold metal off his own wrists. History will prove if he is hero or traitor I think. What happens if extremely damaging things come out for example on Obama’s birth certificate and covering up there, why that would make him an immediate hero if it resulted in the impeachment or resignation of the Poser. I think many of us are “torn” over this dude.


19 posted on 12/25/2013 6:49:39 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Vermont Lt

“But I hate that he ran to China and Russia.”

After the US canceled his passport, he couldn’t travel and Russia agreed to let him stay for a year...


21 posted on 12/25/2013 7:33:30 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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