Skip to comments.Report: Kerry Offers Pollard's Release to Israel
Posted on 12/27/2013 11:47:49 AM PST by cll
United States Secretary of State John Kerry has offered Israel the release of Jonathan Pollard, Channel 10 News reported on Friday.
According to the report, Kerrys offer was made as part of the discussions surrounding the upcoming planned release of 26 terrorists from Israeli jails as a gesture to Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas.
Kol Yisrael radio, which also reported about Kerrys offer, said it relates to the fourth stage of the terrorist release and is conditional upon Israel agreeing to release Israeli Arabs who have committed acts of terrorism.
Israeli officials were quoted by both outlets as having said that they believe the idea has not been cleared with President Barack Obama and as such were doubtful that the offer would actually be implemented.
Pollards release has been tied in the past week with recent revelations by documents leaked by Edward Snowden that the United States conducted surveillance on Israeli leaders.
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Under this Obama regime, Treason is barely a misdemeanor, and certainly oh-so-chic.
Gonna make a deal with Death and Hell for Pollard?
For President Chaos, the more terrorists loose in the world, the better.....
Officially the reason we have not done this in the past is that it would destroy morale within the intelligence agencies.
Some combination of Ed Snowden leaks and having Obama as their boss has already taken care of that.
Let Pollard rot in prison.
I have no problem sending Pollard to Israel. In a box.
On the other hand, when they’re hanged, they stay hanged.
The deal for the release of the terrorists was already made earlier, in order to “get the negotiations going”. In fact there was a earlier release. So, this release was already “in the works” without anything to do with Pollard.
Why does Israel ALWAYS have to give 100 to 1, in every negotiation?
It’s about time that Pollard was released. Former CIA Director, James Woolsey, has been saying for years now (and very much in public) that there is no good reason to keep pollard and that he has done far more time than others who have done much, much worse.
Former CIA director renews call for Pollards release
Pollard passed classified information about enemy states to the Israeli government during the 1980s, and has been in jail serving a life sentence for espionage since 1985.
In a two-minute video, recorded on Monday at a conference in Manhattan in which Woolsey took part, Woolsey said: If you look at other allies of the United States, such as South Korea and the Philippines, where we have caught spies, the sentence that they had has been light, not like Pollards; its been about six or seven years. What I said in The Wall Street Journal essentially was that if anybody is hung up over the fact that hes an American Jew or that hes Israeli, just pretend that hes a South Korean and set him free.
In response to a question from the cameraman about what may or may not have happened during the administration of former US president Bill Clinton, under whom Woolsey was CIA director, he said, At the beginning they asked us all top-level people who dealt with defense and foreign policy, including me and I opposed clemency at that point. Hed been in prison about seven or eight years, and I went through the material that he took, and it is very serious, it was very sensitive. So I did not support clemency that time around. But the next time it came up, several years later, I was asked what I thought, and what I said is essentially what Ive said ever since.
When asked what he would tell current US President Barack Obama, Woolsey said I would say [to President Obama] what I said in The Wall Street Journal: If youre hung up on this for any reason, pretend Pollard is a South Korean or Filipino-American or an ally from someplace else, and free him. Hes been in prison a long time now, and the only people who are in prison that long are people like [convicted CIA spy Aldrich] Ames and [convicted FBI spy Robert] Hanssen who got people killed, and Pollard didnt do that.
The Wall Street Journal piece to which Woolsey was referring was a letter to the editor Woolsey wrote that was published on July 4, 2012, in which he called for Pollard to be released. Woolsey wrote the letter in response to an opinion piece by Martin Peretz, the publisher of the New Republic, in which Peretz criticized top US officials for calling for Pollards release.
Calls To Free Spy Jonathan Pollard Grow Louder
ROBERT SIEGEL, HOST:
Free Jonathan Pollard - that’s something President Obama is expected to hear in Israel. In the 1980s, Pollard was a young, Jewish-American intelligence analyst who spied for Israel. He pleaded guilty; and after an alarming victim-impact statement from then-Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger, claiming how much damage Pollard’s spying had done, he was sentenced to life in prison.
Calls for Pollard’s release are not new. What is new is how many Israelis and Americans have joined in the call, including people who used to oppose any leniency or early release for Jonathan Pollard. One such person joins us now. R. James Woolsey was director of Central Intelligence in the Clinton administration. He’s in New York, and joins us now. Welcome to the program.
R. JAMES WOOLSEY: Good to be with you.
SIEGEL: You opposed - or used to oppose Pollard’s release. What’s different now?
WOOLSEY: Passage of time. In - 20 years ago, when I’d just taken over as director of Central Intelligence in the Clinton administration, the White House asked several of us what we thought about clemency for Pollard. And I said I thought he had not been in prison long enough for the seriousness of what he had done. It had been about eight years, at that point.
But now, 20 years later, he’s been in prison solidly over a quarter of a century. And the only spies who are sentenced to - that way are basically, people like Ames and Hanssen, who got Americans killed and spied for an enemy. We’ve had several spies for friendly countries - we’ve had a Greek-American spy; we’ve had a Filipino-American spy; we had a South Korean-American spy - and they get sentenced to four to five years, six - seven, in one case - but not 28.
SIEGEL: Since prosecutors in the Pollard case claimed that he spied not just out of love of Israel, but for money; and that he was willing to sell things, they said, to Pakistan and to South Africa; does that put him in a different category from spies for friendly nations, and into the category of mercenaries who might have sold anything?
WOOLSEY: Well, most spies, there’s a mixture. Sometimes, the notion of allegiance is overriding and sometimes, money is; and sometimes, it’s a mixture. But whatever his motivation and however it mixed, Pollard didn’t end up getting - as far as I know - American agents killed the way Ames and Hanssen did, and the way people who’ve been sentenced to life in prison.
SIEGEL: We should say he was - Pollard was delivering classified documents by the valise load, every couple of weeks.
WOOLSEY: Yes, it was a lot of material. It was a serious spy case; there’s no doubt about that. I don’t mean to diminish that at all by saying that 28 years is enough.
SIEGEL: One thing that’s different about the Pollard case from either the Hanssen case or the Aldrich Ames case - or the other friendly nation spying cases - is, it relates to the special relationship between the U.S. and Israel. And for some American Jews, Jonathan Pollard was a poster child for everything that they do not want to be thought of the American Jewish community - that it tolerates dual loyalties, and doing things for Israel that are contrary to U.S. interests. You’ve encountered this argument, making the case...
WOOLSEY: Well, yes. Israel’s on the front lines and - whereas we’ve had a formal alliance with Greece since NATO was formed; we’ve had one with the Philippines for 60-some years, and with South Korea for 50, 60 years; formal alliances, and we don’t really have one of those with Israel. We just have a great deal of ties and close feeling, and strong sense of support. I really take the view now that if someone says he should not be released after 28 years, just pretend that he’s a Filipino-American or a Greek-American and pardon him. I see no reason why people should treat a Jewish-American who spied for Israel on those grounds, more harshly than they treat a Filipino-American who spied for the Philippines, or a South Korean-American who spied for South Korea.
SIEGEL: Mr. Woolsey, thank you very much for talking with us today.
WOOLSEY: Thank you.
SIEGEL: That’s R. James Woolsey, who is the former director of Central Intelligence in the Clinton administration. He was talking about the case of Jonathan Pollard.
They don’t have the death penalty in Israel. There was a death ordered a while back and that was for Eichmann when he was captured by Israel. That was in May 1962! There have been none since then. The religious community in Israel is strongly against it. So ... you won’t get that in Israel.
Because one Israeli life is worth hundreds or thousands of times more (or more) of each terrorist dirtbag life
Respectfully, while Pollard may have been a spy, he was a traitor.
They dont have the death penalty in Israel. There was a death ordered a while back and that was for Eichmann when he was captured by Israel. That was in May 1962! There have been none since then. The religious community in Israel is strongly against it. So ... you wont get that in Israel.
At least Israel often uses the information gained for the benefit of the US.
Like former CIA Director, James Woolsey said - just pretend he was “a South Korean or Filipino-American or an ally from someplace else, and free him.” ... :-) ...
How did Pollard’s giving classified info to Israel, an ALLY, actually hurt the US? Does anyone know? Or was he more akin to Edward Snowden, who is being punished for embarrassing the Fed.gov?
I have great affinity for Israel, and great contempt for the turncoat Pollard. Thank you.
This is the same guy who became a "global warming" hack a few years ago and began pushing alternative energy as a way to combat climate change. He was considered a credible figure in these matters until the inconvenient facts about his financial backing in the industry came to light.
Pollard didn’t spy for Israel for altruistic reasons. He did it for money and to advance his wife’s business interests. Among other things.
Having said that, he’s already served far more time than others under similar circumstances.
Haven’t played “Let’s Pretend” since the 60’s, but I get the point. Curiously, I am not familiar with the others, Woolsey mentioned, were they Koreans or Filipinos, or were they born in the U.S. ? Just interested, for comparison purposes. Thank you.
Israel has officially affirmed, and in public, that Pollard was working on behalf of Israel and under their orders. “Israel” and “Pollard” are one and the same, in this situation.
Pretty much ALL OF ISRAEL consider Pollard to be a HERO to them and they fully support what he did.
When you refer to Pollard, make sure you refer to ISRAEL, as they are the ones behind what he did.
The original NCIS investigation apparently revealed that the two of them were trying to sell this information to Pakistan and South Africa -- neither of which had anything remotely to do with Israel at the time.
Caspar Weinberger called it the most destructive acts of espionage the U.S. had seen in decades. Do a Google search on "RASIN Manual" to see what Pollard's most egregious acts of treason entailed.
You’ll have to get that from the former CIA Director, James Woolsey, as he’s the one who had the security clearance and knows all the details - behind the scenes and not known to the public - to be able to say that.
I’m sure you could catch him on a radio talk show one of these times.
And, by the way, Woolsey said he was able to examine the FULL RECORD on Pollard (stuff that has never been released to the public or in court) and he said that according to his access to top secret material, that Pollard was not the threat he was made out to be and should have released a long time ago.
We have a lot of “allies”, but we don’t share everything with all of them. I don’t care if he was passing classified cooking recipes to the Canadians, it’s not okay for an American soldier to pass classified intelligence to a foreign government without our permission.
Do you realize what a mess it would create if every member of the armed forces or intelligence agencies with a security clearance were allowed to decide for themselves what classified information foreign intelligence agencies should know?
Pollard will be released in 11/2015, barring any problems in prison. There’s no reason to cut him any more slack then that.
You asked ... “Who pays Woolsey’s salary now?”
Well ... if one is a CONSPIRACY NUT (of which we have quIte a few on Free Republic) ... then the answer to that is Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Mossad ... LOL ...
Once again, I respectfully disagree, while I do appreciate your opinion. Pollard sold American secrets, with which he was entrusted, for a few pieces of silver. If he gave them away for the sake of Israel, or if he became an Israeli citizen, when he did the deeds, I could be a bit more sympathetic, however, in my history book, he is on the same page as General B. Arnold. Thank you.
Woolsey was adamantly opposed to Pollard's release when he was the CIA director in the Clinton administration. He doesn't know anything now that he didn't know then.
Woolsey is clearly a hack whose public statements are based entirely on who he's working for at any given time. He has no credibility in this matter at all.
More insanity from the insane administration
“In 1986, Pollard pled guilty to US Title 18 Section 794. This section of the espionage code is restricted to offences of a particularly serious nature that include disclosures which ‘directly concerned nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large-scale attack; war plans; communications intelligence or cryptographic information.’
Those convicted of this offense either fetch a life sentence or as in the case of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg death!
The espionage codes make no distinction between spying for allies or enemies, but rather within the nature of the information itself. Pollard estimates that the documents he stole could create a stack 6 feet wide, 6 feet long, and 10 feet high. This amounts to over 800,000 pages of US intelligence information, some designated with the highest classification of secrecy. A portion of those documents contained information that revealed how the U.S. analyzes Soviet weaponry, completely undermining Americas nuclear defense capabilities.
Though Pollard now claims that he was only providing information to the benefit of Israels national security, even one of his staunchest supporters ex-CIA Chief James Woolsey admits that, ‘the material was broad-ranging and included information that did not relate solely to Israels immediate security needs. Part of it, if it had found its way into the hands of a hostile country, would have presented a danger to the U.S. ability to collect intelligence.’
And if that doesnt convince you that he got what he deserved, consider that other convicted spies like Robert Hanssen and Aldrich Ames are serving their life sentences in maximum lockdown, high security hell holes. Meanwhile, Pollard is living the sweet life in North Carolina at the Butner Correctional Facility, which some inmates have dubbed ‘Camp Fluffy.’”
I have to wonder about a nation that grants citizenship to a person who is serving a life sentence in another country.
Maybe the Obama administration is ready to grant U.S. citizenship to every Palestinian in the West Bank -- and in Israeli prisons -- as part of this deal, eh?
Treason is instinctual for this administration.
I’d pay the postage for multiple boxes, if necessary.
1) Agreed. A spy works for his nation, and may sometimes be considered a soldier, by other means. I consider Pollard to be a traitor, hence my harsh opinion, of him. 2) Pollard is a hero in Israel, they are doing what they think they need to, on his behalf. While I care about Israel, The State of Israel is not the 51st State of The U.S. 3)I’m sure the current administration would grant everything that I consider to be sacred, to those who would not be worthy :(
Thanks for your reply.
If you let 26 terrorists go we’ll send you an American traitor.
What do we get out of this?
I would release Pollard only if Israel DID NOT release Islamic Terrorists
Problem is that a lot of folks who want to keep Pollard in jail are big supporters of Free Trade with Communist China....which is pretty hypocritical supporting Communism while supporting jailing someone for indirectly aiding Commies.
If his words had credibility then ... they have just as much credibility now. And he has gone on the record very many times in the last decade calling for Pollard’s release.
So enough to fill a thumb drive with enough space left over for the new Miley CD on MP3?
Can we send them Jackson Pollack instead?
more than just a little surprised our vaunted overpriced intelligence apperatus hasn’t really thrown up the dirt they really have on obammy inc after all the crap they’ve tried to lay on them.
On the final day of the negotiations, the agreement almost fell through. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had asked President Bill Clinton to release Jonathan Pollard, an American naval intelligence officer who has been serving a life sentence since 1985 for giving classified information to Israel. A bitter disagreement arose, with Netanyahu claiming that Clinton had promised to release Pollard, and Clinton saying he had only promised to “review” the case. It was also reported that then director of the CIA George Tenet had threatened to resign if Pollard was released.
Why should Israel believe Kerry? Originally Israel was guaranteed that info like Pollard gave them was intel the USA was obligated to give Israel. Sadam Hussein was developing nukes to bomb Israel and we didn’t share this with Israel like we agreed to do.
A lot of history of not honoring our word to our ally Israel
and now we find them not trusting us, I wonder why?
Israel released about ONE THOUSAND TERRORISTS to get back just ONE ISRAELI SOLDIER.
I really don’t think you’re going to see Israel changing that procedure, any time.