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The incredible, shrinking New York
Hot Air ^ | December 28, 2013 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 12/28/2013 8:42:28 PM PST by Hojczyk

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Beaches, deserts, lush forests of redwoods, mountains, fertile valleys, rivers, lakes, and California girls...

We've got all those things in AZ, as well as gun rights and other freedoms.

21 posted on 12/28/2013 10:57:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: carlo3b

i have a hard time enjoying ‘the arts’ knowing my money goes into a whole bunch of liberals pockets.

i manage just fine.


22 posted on 12/28/2013 11:34:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hojczyk

Problem is they are MOVING to FLORIDA and bringing their LIBERALVOTING and IDEAS WITH THEM!!! STAY IN NEW YORK.....REAP WHAT YOU SOWED!!


23 posted on 12/28/2013 11:49:45 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Gulp..I agree, and we abhor the end results, to a degree, but I and my family are kinda in the arts.. My one son is a musician/composer, the other is a writer, and I am an actor, author.. :)


24 posted on 12/28/2013 11:54:38 PM PST by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: Hojczyk

If any business man or woman is STUPID enough to take the BAIT that Marxist Cuomo and his cronies are offering in Albany you deserve to LOSE your business because that is what will happen. The fine print of his deals means slavery.


25 posted on 12/29/2013 12:36:07 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: carlo3b

i feel for you working in a field overwhelmed by liberals. i understand, i spent a lot of time doing artwork for journalism/newspapers, and i was in high school and college orchestras. i understand the liberal artsy types.


26 posted on 12/29/2013 2:16:01 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hojczyk

NY will never reverse its decline until NY City stops being the tail that wags the dog. Unfortunately, that is unlikely to happen for a very long time.


27 posted on 12/29/2013 3:35:43 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: Southack

73% of the electorate in nyc elected a flaming self professed communist dictator... arch demon cuomo sits as goobernator... I hope ny collapses.


28 posted on 12/29/2013 3:48:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Southack

Let us not forget the gun manufacturers. With the signs of a detroit like senario in it’s future and a big dope who will welcome more illegals, more handouts, more progressive utopianism AKA ACORN and the family workers party being in complete control thanks to his proud lesbian life mate mccray we can see it doesnt look good


29 posted on 12/29/2013 3:52:10 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Southack

“Plus, Winters suck there.”

That is a much bigger factor than many people realize; I’d seen a projection of population shifts within the US over the next few decades, and all of the growth in cities was happening in areas where they don’t normally reach freezing temperatures in winter. I don’t believe it was just related to heating costs; it also involved the business disruptions caused by winter weather to infrastructure (roads, mass transit systems, etc.).

These concepts would certainly explain the shift from NY to FL (at least the parts that aren’t prone to hurricanes).


30 posted on 12/29/2013 3:57:19 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Ann Archy

Problem is they are MOVING to FLORIDA and bringing their LIBERALVOTING and IDEAS WITH THEM!!! STAY IN NEW YORK.....REAP WHAT YOU SOWED!!


I have to agree with you, which is why I left for the VERY rural countryside of Kentucky.

In 1995, I believe, I was at a ‘Lab’ getting a test done for my Dr. and there were these two elderly ladies in the waiting room with me and they were talking in that typical, ‘Brooklyn accent’, about how nice it was that there were now more ‘services’ available and that they could now get heir friends to come down next year with them.

It only got worse after that, with the housing boom, no new industry, (it kept being voted down), the horrible road conditions because of the influx of people, etc. etc.

I truly wish they had just stayed home in NY, MA and the rest of the northeast.


31 posted on 12/29/2013 3:58:21 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: sickoflibs

“I heard a NYS commercial I think on WABC77 radio that said that NYS would waive taxes for ~ 10 years to some businesses that move there, but we know its not all taxes.

Wouldn’t that be ‘giving tax subsidies to the rich’ ??”

They’ll make it up on taxing the salaries of the employees they hope to keep in NY state (especially in NYC, where they have a city income tax). During the bank bailout, NY (city & state) were fighting to allow the “rescued” banks to pay bonuses to their employees because both needed the taxes on those bonuses for their budgets.

I can’t see the dwindling number of NY taxpayers supporting a measure that has them providing police/fire protection for these companies that will certainly have hiring restrictions imposed on them (a set % of preferred minorities, for example).


32 posted on 12/29/2013 4:04:46 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“The only jobs that will be left upstate NY will be on the apple farms.”

As in NW NJ, many of those jobs are “Americans need not apply”; I’m shocked at how many Hispanics our rural cmmunities have. The poverty industry employs many along the Hudson River (Newburgh, Poughkeepsie, Albany); the welfare recipients need social workers, school teachers, cops, etc.


33 posted on 12/29/2013 4:08:24 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Southack

took a trip to Niagra Falls last winter.
spoke to a resident of Buffalo who said the area use to be a dynamic job creating wonderland until unions came in making such high demands and local and state gub mints made taxes and the cost of doing bid ness so expensive in the area all the large companies left for more favorable bidness conditions elsewhere.


34 posted on 12/29/2013 4:27:32 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: kearnyirish2

the welfare recipients need social workers, school teachers, cops, etc.
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In my county the government is the biggest industry. It is evident from the buildings. The best maintained and largest belong to the government. Our $80 million high school sits like a queen among them all.

It is my anecdotal observation in traveling across the nation that the schools are, almost without exception, the largest and most expensive structures in any community. In my county the SS school district ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement schools) is the single largest employer with largest payroll that far exceeds any other business in the county.


35 posted on 12/29/2013 4:41:52 AM PST by wintertime
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To: ReformationFan

You are correct. Every Democrat vote, in every Sunbelt state was cast by northerner.


36 posted on 12/29/2013 4:55:46 AM PST by j.argese (Not anymore!)
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To: Southack

You left out organized crime & the gangs.


37 posted on 12/29/2013 5:00:09 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: wintertime

“In my county the government is the biggest industry.”

This is one of the things killing NJ now; what you are describing was state-wide (causing us to have such high property taxes - 3/4 of which go to schools), and then the money ran out. Governor Christie capped our tax increases at 2%, so when the teachers’ unions demanded and got 4% raises other people lost their jobs. Cops, firemen, public works, non-unionized school staff - all were cut to feed the teachers’ unions (the de facto owners of the Democratic Party). At this point they’ve even let go teachers themselves (including tenured teachers with the least seniority); the unions won’t give concessions, and those being laid off have no private-sector jobs skills. Some of the cops are moving to other states (probably the same ones to which NJ’s tax-paying American population is fleeing), while others hang on in the hopes of getting re-hired by another department (some deal was reached where laid-off cops would be hired before any newcomers). This has basically shut out young people (who would start at lower salaries) from those jobs; there is no future for young people here in NJ in many fields (not necessarily government-related).


38 posted on 12/29/2013 5:21:24 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: wintertime

“It is my anecdotal observation in traveling across the nation that the schools are, almost without exception, the largest and most expensive structures in any community.”

BTW, this is exactly why neither party will enforce immigration laws; the education-industrial complex will never allow it. Pampered American teachers will be teaching classes filled with foreign anchor babies, and no politician will dare to interfere with it. Heck, in my town school crossing guards were getting full benefits; the part-time (almost seasonal) education industry has become more lucrative than most private-sector work.

The only Americans I know having multiple children are government workers; imagine what that portends for the future voting patterns of these young Americans they are breeding.


39 posted on 12/29/2013 5:25:18 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Hojczyk
Leftist answer: "Force them to stay! Force them to operate! Force them to pay taxes to support our Utopia! Throw them in jail if they don't! Damn it, we're trying to Save the Planet (tm) here! Don't they all understand how much we care!" :)
40 posted on 12/29/2013 5:34:28 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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