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White House: Only 1.1 Million Have Signed Up for Obamacare …5 Million Have Lost Their Plans
Gateway Pundit ^ | December 29, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 12/29/2013 6:10:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama Administration announced today that 1.1 million Americans have signed up for Obamacare so far.

That number includes the number who have signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid part of the plan.

As of December 11, 2013–

Over 800,000 Americans signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid program.

Over five million Americans have lost their health care plans so far.

The Hill reported:

More than 1.1 million people enrolled in ObamaCare before a December 24 deadline for consumers seeking healthcare plans that begin Jan. 1, the Obama administration said early Sunday.

Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) Administrator Marilyn Tavenner said in a blog post that more than 975,000 people enrolled in a qualified health plan through the federal marketplace in December, following a rocky rollout in October.

Detailed demographics were not released.

Approximately 365,000 signed up for Obamacare.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aca; headcount; medicaid; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Only 336.9 million left to go.

At the current signup rate, it'll only take another 100 Million years or so. Comparatively, the Chevy Volt is a huge success.

61 posted on 12/29/2013 7:51:40 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, under one definition of “lost coverage” you wouldn’t be counted, under another you would. That means they can reduce the number of those who lost coverage by simply changing the definition.

The way I’d count it, if the reason that family’s cost went up is because their insurance company actually cancelled their policy and didn’t offer another one, I’d count it as “lost coverage”. If it’s because their policy had to change to become compliant, I’d probably put them in the ObamaCare victim column instead. Both suck.


62 posted on 12/29/2013 7:53:46 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My concern with this is that we’ll get locked into saying 5 million Americans lost their insurance, then the administration will come up with a much smaller figure who still don’t have insurance and claim it’s “another ObamaCare success story” when in fact all it amounts to is an apples and oranges comparison.


63 posted on 12/29/2013 8:02:52 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Soon there will be an Obamacare body count.

We can watch the MSM fail to report it.

64 posted on 12/29/2013 8:27:57 PM PST by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s right there in the numbers, they said the 1.1 million INCLUDES the Medicaid signups... 800k of them are Medicaid which are almost completely subsidized.

So we lost five million private insurance PAYERS, signed up 300k “real” (sorta) Obamacare payers and signed up 800k almost entirely subsidized leeches under Medicaid.

That’s a staggering net loss of all kinds. Utter failure. Less insured, less payers, more takers with less people to pay for them.

How do you support 800k Medicaid with 300k mostly bronze plan payers?

Oh, and of those 300k? We don’t know how many will actually pay the first payment on time to start coverage. So they aren’t really “payers” yet.

This whole thing is underwater by the end of January.


65 posted on 12/30/2013 12:02:22 AM PST by Advil000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wait till the number is 100 million next year. I already know I will be one of the losers in 2014. I'm sure they will try to put it off till after the election, but ATT has already listed it in their 8k and published it. The union is in denial and the company is mum but there it is in black and white.

I'm sure the union is working feverishly on my behalf as I write this with the 8k already published.

66 posted on 12/30/2013 12:33:27 AM PST by chuckles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Government Advantage

ObamaCare starts to gut the private and popular alternative to Medicare.

Updated Dec. 29, 2013 5:12 p.m. ET

Amid the larger ObamaCare meltdown, seniors are discovering their choices are fewer, costs higher and coverage poorer too. Liberals fear the increasing popularity of Medicare Advantage, and they’re starting to gut this market alternative to their original health-care entitlement before the sand runs out on President Obama’s second term.

About 14 million people or 28% of Medicare beneficiaries choose Advantage over the government option, which is why the Affordable Care Act steals about $156 billion from the program—even as enrollment has surged 30% since 2010. The Health and Human Services Department found creative ways to defer or override most of the Advantage cuts ahead of the 2012 election, but now the plan is to destroy Advantage though fiscal starvation and member attrition. Doing the job all at once would be too politically costly even for this White House.

For 2014, the defined-contribution subsidies that allow seniors to choose a private health plan plunge by about 5% to 9% depending on the county, and those cuts are starting to bite. Like the ObamaCare exchanges, next year’s Advantage offerings feature higher premiums and worse benefits, as well as insurers that are competing in fewer markets and shrinking their physician networks.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303985504579207960981303326


67 posted on 12/30/2013 10:38:49 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Advil000

Funny thing about it is, they could have accomlished the MedicAid increase with a one paragraph bill that told the states they’d pay for it, and didn’t have a two year sunset on it. Most of the rest of the real issue could have been addressed with federal subsidies for the existing state programs for the hard to insure.

As for the Fluke issue, libs could probably have just taken up a collection.


68 posted on 12/30/2013 1:10:18 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t sign up for Obamacare. I signed up for insurance to replace the policy dropped by the underwriter for my professional association’s group insurance policy. I also did not use the healthcare.gov website buy my new insurance policy.


69 posted on 12/30/2013 5:55:34 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: ltc8k6; GarySpFc; 2ndDivisionVet; thackney
How many people have signed up for a PPACA compliant plan without a subsidy?

I don’t qualify for a subsidy. I enrolled in an Obamacare plan with BCBSNC on Nov 16th. There were no problems at all with the BCBSNC enrollment. It went smoothly and worked the first time.

My enrollment did not involve Healthcare.gov at all.

Good move. I used my professional association's online insurance market rather than healthcare.gov, because I didn't trust the government website's security even after the "fix". The reason I went ahead and bought Unaffordable Healthcare Act compliant insurance was that the temporary insurance policies wouldn't cover my preexisting back problems even though I have had no discontinuity of coverage. The temporary insurance policies I investigated also wouldn't cover me if I had a medical issue outside of the US or Canada. That's not very practical for me considering I have a foreign girlfriend.

70 posted on 12/30/2013 6:12:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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