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Drunk Mormons accused of random bashing of man on Surfers Paradise street [Lds play knockout 'game']
Queensland Courier Mail ^ | Dec. 31, 2013 | Jeremy Pierce and Leah Fineran

Posted on 12/31/2013 6:28:22 PM PST by Colofornian

TWO Mormons on the Gold Coast for a church camp stand accused of a shocking attack that left a passing stranger in a coma.

Amanaki Kaufusi, 21, and Onesi Taufui, 18, yesterday faced Southport Magistrates Court charged with grievous bodily harm over a violent attack on a tourist in Surfers Paradise.

Hundreds of Mormons have gathered on the Gold Coast for a Latter-day Saints conference at Tallebudgera.

But as their friends listened to the teachings of church leaders, Kaufusi and Taufui, both from western Sydney, headed to the bright lights of Sin City for a night on the town.

The court was told the pair were walking along Cavill Avenue in the early hours of Sunday morning when an intoxicated Kaufusi allegedly yelled: "I just want to hit someone. I will hit the next person I see."

Witnesses reported Kaufusi "showing an intent to fight others for no reason" and told him he was drunk.

Kaufusi allegedly responded in Tongan: "You want to see drunk, this is drunk."

Police said he king-hit 24-year-old tourist Onyekachi Okoye, who collapsed unconscious to the footpath.

Both men then allegedly stomped on the victim's head before laughing and walking off. When their Mormon friends pleaded with them to turn themselves in after Mr Okoye was rushed to hospital, the duo allegedly tried to flee Surfers Paradise in a taxi to return to the Tallebudgera camp.

Mr Okoye, from Glendale near Newcastle, later woke from a coma and has been transferred out of intensive care at the Gold Coast University Hospital.

He suffered a broken jaw but no brain damage.

Magistrate Brian Kilmartin refused bail due to the seriousness of the allegations. They will face court again on February 26.

Outside court, duty lawyer Mal Chalmers said his clients were in "a state of shock". "(Kaufusi) couldn't remember anything about the event," he said.

Latter-day Saints State President Asa Smibert said the men were not pre-registered at the camp and may have been visiting friends.

"Violence of any sort in the community is a tragedy and our thoughts and prayers go out to the individuals involved."


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TWO Mormons on the Gold Coast for a church camp stand accused of a shocking attack that left a passing stranger in a coma. Amanaki Kaufusi, 21, and Onesi Taufui, 18, yesterday faced Southport Magistrates Court charged with grievous bodily harm over a violent attack on a tourist in Surfers Paradise. Hundreds of Mormons have gathered on the Gold Coast for a Latter-day Saints conference at Tallebudgera. But as their friends listened to the teachings of church leaders, Kaufusi and Taufui, both from western Sydney, headed to the bright lights of Sin City for a night on the town. The court was told the pair were walking along Cavill Avenue in the early hours of Sunday morning when an intoxicated Kaufusi allegedly yelled: "I just want to hit someone. I will hit the next person I see." ...Police said he king-hit 24-year-old tourist Onyekachi Okoye, who collapsed unconscious to the footpath. Both men then allegedly stomped on the victim's head before laughing and walking off. When their Mormon friends pleaded with them to turn themselves in after Mr Okoye was rushed to hospital, the duo allegedly tried to flee Surfers Paradise in a taxi to return to the Tallebudgera camp. Mr Okoye, from Glendale near Newcastle, later woke from a coma...

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PROVO, UTAH – A jury convicted a doctor of murder early Saturday in the death of his wife six years ago, bringing an end to a trial that became the nation's latest true-crime cable TV obsession with its tales of plastic surgery and philandering, betrayal and family feuding, jailhouse snitches and a courtroom prop: a jetted bathtub. Feelings of failure common among early-return missionaries, study says [Mormon mishies] ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2013‎ ‎4‎:‎58‎:‎58‎ ‎AM · by Colofornian · 55 replies KSL.com ^ | Nov. 5, 2013 | Celeste Tholen Rosenlof OREM — Missionaries who return early from their service need additional help from ward members and clinical professionals to cope, a new study says. Kris Doty, Ph.D, chair of the Department of Behavioral Science at Utah Valley University and a clinical therapist, led a team of students in studying the effects of a missionary’s early return on their faith and lives. Doty found that 74 percent of participants had feelings of failure and 65 percent were uncomfortable in social settings due to early release... The 348 study participants were males and females, ages 20-29, who returned early from the mission... Utah Scout leaders face backlash after incident in Goblin Valley State Park (Updated) ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2013‎ ‎4‎:‎33‎:‎58‎ ‎AM · by Colofornian · 63 replies BYU Universe ^ | Oct. 29, 2013 | Dylan Ellsworth Two Utah Boy Scout leaders are facing significant backlash after posting a video online of the men tipping over a nearly 200-million-year-old rock formation in Goblin Valley State Park. Glenn Taylor and David Hall, from Highland, Utah, have now been removed from the Boy Scouts of America. An investigation is underway to determine whether the men will face felony charges. 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(I know that there are at least 6 seasons, but I don’t have cable and have refused to pay for episodes when I have Netflix already. Netflix has recently added season 3, so I... Earning Your Scooby Snack [The OTHER World Series: The Paranormal in Salt Lake City] ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2013‎ ‎5‎:‎07‎:‎48‎ ‎PM · by Colofornian · 4 replies WBCruise.blogspot.com ^ | September, 2010 | Darin Ghosts. The disembodied spirits of the dead. The inexplicable intelligence that animates living tissue and continues to exist after hearts shutdown and organs cease. Do they walk the earth? Are they real? As a kid I thought so. Now? I don't know really. Little did I know one day I was going to find myself in ghost central - a crossroad in the realm of the living dead. In 2004 I was working at Salt Lake Regional Medical Center (SLRMC) in downtown Salt Lake City. My office was on the fifth and top floor in an office building on the... A haunted house in Salt Lake City? 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The Haunting of a Mormon Missionary in Ecuador [The OTHER World Series] ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2013‎ ‎10‎:‎20‎:‎30‎ ‎AM · by Colofornian · 24 replies TrueGhostTales.com ^ | July 8, 2010 | Geoff In 2001 I was serving a Mormon mission in Guayaquil, Ecuador. As you might know, missionaries are paired up in twos and are called companionships. My particular companion at this time was a young guy from Chile. We lived in a little two level home made of cinder blocks and cement just on the outskirts of a small town near Guayaquil. We lived on the lower level. My companion had lived in this home for a couple of months before I moved in, and at this time, I had moved in 2 months prior. As you may know, missionaries have... Sidney Rigdon, Occultist and Leader of the Smith "restoration" [Ex-Mormon leader channeler] ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2013‎ ‎10‎:‎14‎:‎03‎ ‎AM · by Colofornian · 20 replies CARM.org ^ | Nov. 23, 2012 | Catherine Aurelia As most know, I truly believe in Sidney Rigdon's participation in the creation of the Book of Mormon. But, what I'd really like to touch on is the character of Rigdon. His own grandson said he was a religious "crank," and I'd agree. He went from one group to another (Baptist to Campbellite) seeking someone who would promote his personal beliefs, and when he found Joe Smith he thought he had an answer to his long quest. Sidney Rigdon, however, was an occultist, someone who practices magical arts which are forbidden in the Scripture. We all know that "spiritism" or... 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We have a mission to perform for and in... 19th century occultic Mormon phenomena: Paranormal intermingling, demonic possession [Vanity] ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2013‎ ‎9‎:‎56‎:‎18‎ ‎AM · by Colofornian · 47 replies Colofornian | Oct. 31, 2013 | Colofornian Latayne Colvett Scott wrote about her experiences in being "proxy baptized" on behalf of the dead when she was a Mormon teen. And even though the process is quite mechanical, activity at Mormon temples can range greatly from the mechanical to the mystical, where, Scott wrote: "This sort of mechanical processing of proxies goes on daily in the...temples around the world. Literally millions of dead persons have had proxy baptisms done for them in this assembly-line fashion...the righteous dead can intermingle with and teach those who have not received the Gospel in mortal life." (Latayne Colvett Scott, The Mormon Mirage:... 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2 posted on 12/31/2013 6:32:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Colofornian

So, they’re not just Amish anymore?


3 posted on 12/31/2013 6:33:55 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Dispatch that post, FRiend!


4 posted on 12/31/2013 6:35:33 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

WOW! Great read ... not. Paragraphs are our friend.


5 posted on 12/31/2013 6:36:27 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Wow! My head IS spinning.


6 posted on 12/31/2013 6:36:28 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Colofornian

Dude, from looking at your recent posts, it appears your personal JIHAD is directed at Mormons.


7 posted on 12/31/2013 6:41:53 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Las Vegas Ron

He’s a special boy and controls what people say on the internet, yes he does.


8 posted on 12/31/2013 6:48:09 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: House Atreides; Las Vegas Ron; All

Let's see...if some black gansta types "Knockout game" perps "coma" a tourist...the focus is on the perps (and/or the mass media for ignoring it)...

But when Mormon white guys "coma" a tourist via "the knockout 'game,'" ... you and Las Vegas Ron seem to blame the media for actually reporting it...and become these knockout perps' advocates by ignoring them & focusing on the thread poster...

(That makes a LOT of sense /s)

I say: Pray for the tourist!

9 posted on 12/31/2013 6:51:34 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Lame on you.

I have never heard any mention at all of the religion(s) of Knock Out Game perps until now.


10 posted on 12/31/2013 6:56:19 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Colofornian

Why the assumption that “Amanaki Kaufusi and Onesi Taufui” are “Mormon White Guys”?

Mormon, that’s what was reported in the story. No mention of race was there.


11 posted on 12/31/2013 6:56:39 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Las Vegas Ron; doc1019; All
{Hey, Dec. 31 is THE PERFECT time to do a year in review! (Thanks!)}

[Doc1019 is right, tho...'graphs are a readers' friend!]

(And 'twould be on the 'morally sound' side if you actually say something more negative about these "coma" twins than the thread poster...on the other hand, we know what perverse 'Vegas does to people morally speaking...and I'm not exactly why anybody actually claiming to be "conservative" would want in any way to be openly associated with "Las Vegas")

12 posted on 12/31/2013 6:56:49 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: laplata

"Mormon white guy" Amanaki Kaufusi.

13 posted on 12/31/2013 6:58:37 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

Dat’s waisist. /s LOL


14 posted on 12/31/2013 7:00:22 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Dr.Deth; All
Why the assumption...

#1 Well, you could contact the two journalists + the newspaper that wrote the story...perhaps they can answer

#2 As a side note...as of 2007...32% of Tonga in the South Pacific was Mormon ... per http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071121051519AAil2Tn

At first glance, it appears these men were perhaps from Tonga (or originally from there)

The victim's name Onyekachi Okoye...is likely a Nigerian name...

15 posted on 12/31/2013 7:04:35 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Dr.Deth

Ethnically, South Pacific polynesians are “Asian”...most trace originally from people groups out of Taiwan...


16 posted on 12/31/2013 7:08:39 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Man, I’m just shaking in my boots in fear of any and all Mormons.

They might Knock Me Out if I don’t convert to Mormon after they kidnap me.

I’m headed to the nearest Mosque for safety.


17 posted on 12/31/2013 7:12:00 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Colofornian
Will be reported as "White Asians".....

Kinda like Trayvon's "White Hispanic"

18 posted on 12/31/2013 7:15:01 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Colofornian

Hey Colofornia .... I’m Mormon

.... and I’ve never been drunk!

.... and I’ve never knocked anyone out!

.... but, I guess when you are a RELIGIOUS BIGOT, if one Mormon is guilty ....they all are!


19 posted on 12/31/2013 7:17:21 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

< p> is your friend on FR


20 posted on 12/31/2013 7:18:27 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: teppe

Bingo!


21 posted on 12/31/2013 7:18:54 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Colofornian

Do Mormons drunk dial well?


22 posted on 12/31/2013 7:28:19 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Colofornian

Happy New Year to our obsessed anti-Mormon, Colofornian.


23 posted on 12/31/2013 7:28:56 PM PST by skyman
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Las Vegas Ron is apparently kinda slow.


24 posted on 12/31/2013 7:29:14 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: Colofornian

Happy New year to the truth crusader Colofornian.


25 posted on 12/31/2013 7:33:27 PM PST by doc1019
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To: teppe

Of course you’ve never knocked anyone out. That would take meeting someone face to face. Most mormons use the “throw poop and run” approach.


26 posted on 12/31/2013 7:48:52 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Colofornian

Nothing in the story backs up the headline that they were Mormon. The only thing I can take from this thread is that you have some issue with Mormons and are willing to play loose with facts to knock them. But God knows the threat that they pose relative to all the other evil afoot today so you just keep it up tiger.


27 posted on 12/31/2013 7:51:34 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: Anton.Rutter

Most mormons use the “throw poop and run” approach.


Then you must be Mormon. You seem to be a chicken -hit.


28 posted on 12/31/2013 8:01:13 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

Send me a first class plane ticket and you’ll find out for sure, sweetness.


29 posted on 12/31/2013 8:12:44 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: bramps
Nothing in the story backs up the headline that they were Mormon.

Of course. The newspaper reporting that they were mormon did so as part of a global anti-mormon conspiracy. /s

...you have some issue with Mormons and are willing to play loose with facts to knock them.

Accusation without specificity or substantiation, i. e., poop throwing. Much easier to call someone a liar from a thousand miles away, saves all that money on dental bills.

30 posted on 12/31/2013 8:13:07 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

I wouldn’t waste my time. I hope you’re a lady for calling me “sweetness”.


31 posted on 12/31/2013 8:18:12 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

Sorry.

Cupcake.


32 posted on 12/31/2013 8:20:01 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: All

Well, you missed your shot. I was helpless with laughter for a few minutes ;)

Happy New Year!


33 posted on 12/31/2013 8:24:09 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Dr.Deth
It doesn't even appear that they were part of the conference . . . only speculation by the guy in charge that they may have been visiting friends there.

So they went out to get drunk and fight, much like lowlifes of any flavor do and the jihadi making this post assumes they were Tongan and assumes they were Mormon because there was a conference in the area.

I, on the other hand, am simply assuming they were lowlifes because of their actions.

34 posted on 12/31/2013 8:31:20 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Colofornian

No, no, NO!!!

Flying Inmen bash MORMONS - NOT the other way around!


35 posted on 12/31/2013 8:34:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

MEGO


36 posted on 12/31/2013 8:34:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: House Atreides
Dude, from looking at your recent posts, it appears your personal JIHAD is directed at Mormons.

Then you need to actually READ what is posted; just not LOOK at it.

The war is against MormonISM - a demonic heresy.

37 posted on 12/31/2013 8:36:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: laplata
I have never heard any mention at all of the religion(s) of Knock Out Game perps until now.

And whose fault is THAT?

38 posted on 12/31/2013 8:36:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
...32% of Tonga in the South Pacific was Mormon ...

Utah's population is 62.2 percent LDS and that percentage hasn't moved much in the past three years.

39 posted on 12/31/2013 8:38:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Hey Colofornia .... I’m Mormon

Poor you; for according to a mighty famous MORMON 'prophet'; you are headed to HELL!


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

40 posted on 12/31/2013 8:40:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

No worries mate, just wondering where “Mormon white guy” entered the thread from.


41 posted on 12/31/2013 8:44:09 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Vigilanteman

Sure I agree they were lowlifes. I didn’t think I cast any aspersions on anybody I responded to?


42 posted on 12/31/2013 8:45:35 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: bramps
Nothing in the story backs up the headline that they were Mormon.

Nothing?

Anyone can do a search and find your statement is incorrect.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/national/drunk-mormons-bashed-random-stranger/story-fnii5v6y-1226792197941

43 posted on 12/31/2013 8:46:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman
It doesn't even appear that they were part of the conference .Oh?

See above...

44 posted on 12/31/2013 8:47:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bramps
Nothing in the story backs up the headline that they were Mormon.

Upon further review... you are correct. The only thing the article asserts is that they had "Mormon friends" who pleaded with them to turn themselves in.

The press reports things a certain way, so people get a certain impression. So in the first paragraph they report the assault, and in the second they report the Mormon conference. Pretty tricky.

45 posted on 12/31/2013 8:49:38 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Vigilanteman

Apparently the mormon stake president “assumed” they were mormon as well. Unusual laziness for a mormon leader guarding the respectability of his cult.

You know, it’s just barely possible they actually were mormon members. Just not long enough to become the perfect people we all know mormons to be.


46 posted on 12/31/2013 8:50:52 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Elsie

Dude, from looking at your recent posts, it appears your personal JIHAD is directed at Mormons.

Then you need to actually READ what is posted; just not LOOK at it.

The war is against MormonISM - a demonic heresy.
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Well, you conduct YOUR Jihad against the Mormons and I’ll conduct MY Jihad against Islam and the Democrap progressives and the GOPe.


47 posted on 12/31/2013 8:57:25 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Dr.Deth; Colofornian

Come now. Amanaki Kaufusi and Onesi Taufui says “white guys” just like if the two attackers had been Biff Wheatston and Stafford Worthington. Pffft!


48 posted on 12/31/2013 8:58:25 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Elsie; Anton.Rutter

Thanks for proving my point. You had to use a DIFFERENT story to find the facts. I was referring to the POSTED story, which has as the only evidence of them being Mormon that someone said they were NOT registered at the conference. Other than that the only fact is that they were in the same area as many Mormons. That makes them Mormon? I’m no fan of the Mormon religion but I do like facts. I guess I know why our media play loose with the facts also. Prejudiced people suck up the stuff they want to hear and could care less whether it’s true or not.


49 posted on 12/31/2013 8:58:57 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: Anton.Rutter

Do you take headlines from the New York Times and other liberal rags at face value and don’t bother to read the text to see where the distortions lie?


50 posted on 12/31/2013 9:02:13 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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