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To: Hulka

“In December 2011, President Obama signed the 2012 NDAA, codifying indefinite military detention without charge or trial into law for the first time in American history. The NDAA’s dangerous detention provisions would authorize the president — and all future presidents — to order the military to pick up and indefinitely imprison people captured anywhere in the world, far from any battlefield. The ACLU will fight worldwide detention authority wherever we can, be it in court, in Congress, or internationally.”

This is currently posted on the ACLU website.


43 posted on 01/03/2014 11:53:15 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Yes. I understand, and appreciate the reference to what the ACLU says.

Absent an actual reference to the legislation, who are you going to believe, what you are being told by the ACLU or what you can actually read/see for yourself.

I’ve provided a link to the actual legislation. I respectfully ask if you can identify where the US government is allowed to snatch Americans off the streets of America and hold them indefinitely.

Seriously. Please do.

There is simply no “there” there, and I’ve read the legislation, and quoted the relevant portions of the Act, and the Act is quite clear—no indefinite detentions of US citizens.

I think the ACLU and others such as them, are against the indefinite detention of foreigners. They simply don’t like the idea of holding POWs until the war is over.

The hypothesize the ACLU, the defenders of American-haters, has an agenda at play. Much like the homosexual community convincing the heterosexual community they are just as likely to contract HIV/AIDS, the ACLU is doing the exact same thing reference indefinite detention. If I can convince Average Joe American that he can be snatched off the street and held forever, then I generate unwarranted support.

Unless I can be directed to contrary legislation stating otherwise, this indefinite detention thing is misleading hype. No one thus far has been able to cite and quote anything in the law that proves the allegation that Americans can be snatched off the streets and held indefinitely.

There simply is no legislation saying so. So, what are you going to do? Read the legislation and think for yourself, or are you going to believe what you are TOLD to feel about the subject.

I thank you for the civil tone during this exchange. Refreshing, and if you come across legislation proving this indefinite detention of American citizens, please share.

While the hype fits preconceived notions of potential abuse, there are no such authorizations.


44 posted on 01/03/2014 2:09:20 PM PST by Hulka
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To: firebrand

Oh, and yes, the ACLU is referencing indefinite detention but artfully not saying it applies to US citizens.

Cheers.


45 posted on 01/03/2014 2:10:26 PM PST by Hulka
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