Posted on 01/03/2014 8:46:33 AM PST by fatman6502002
I submit it is far, far later than you think.
Know what time it is.
The ballot box is no longer a viable option to preserve or maintain our natural rights. We are already become a MarxoFascist dictatorship.
we’ll have to agree to disagree on that point. My belief is if it was too late to change it elections would already have been banned and Obama would have already disbanded Congress and the USSC. Don’t lose hope my friend, get involved now in the political process for the Tea Party candidate in your area/state while it’s still possible.
I'm with INVAR...I submit it is far, far later than you think.
After all, a comfortable couch negates the burden of most shackles.
We limited government conservatives and Christian conservatives had better understand now: in November of 2016, a Christie/Romney type nominee will be the official GOP presidential "choice" of wholly rigged and arranged primaries, and we're going to be looking once again at the "hold your nose and vote statist liberal Republican because the other guy is worse and third party only guarantees Democrat victory" syndrome.
Likely, Democrats will be voting for their candidate/nominee thinking the same, that he/she stinks but the Republican would be worse.
If we really want to take advantage of the ballot box, we must EMBRACE the power of a third party to force leftist statist politicians of either party into a weak plurality win.
Jettison the very stupid "conventional wisdom" that Perot "ruined" things and start realizing that indeed, Perot, by splitting the vote among an American populace who rightly rejected the Uniparty D/R candidates (HW Bush v Clinton; Dole v Clinton) by majorities in BOTH elections (Clinton never received the support of even half of the voters -- the first time, 57% voted "against" him, the second time, 51% voted "against" him) -- by splitting the vote to force a plurality win on the victor, the victor (Clinton) was so weakened politically (not with the MSM, which loved him, but in real world politics) that his first term, he was snowplowed with the Republican Revolution, and his second term, he was impeached.
Had it not been for third party politics, that probably wouldn't have happened; instead, Clinton or HWB or Dole, all three of them big government statists in mind and deed, would have been powerful "victors." The third party impact of Perot was GOOD FOR CONSERVATISM in the big picture by denying power to those statists.
So it is time NOW to embrace the fact that in 2016, our only hope for weakening the leftist president, D or R, who will likely win, is by voting Third Party in order to force that victor into a plurality so that he/she is WEAK and on defense.
Both of you offer an opinion but neglect to offer any evidence in an historical context help prove your contention. But I understand your point. On the other hand both of you seem to support my conclusion, written on another blog, that the dems and GOPe are engaged in psyops against the American people with the goal being to beat them down mentally such that they believe that there is nothing they can do electorally to avoid the coming dictatorship such that the candidates that would oppose them will never get elected. I hope you guys have not fallen into that trap and simply given up on an electoral solution. If you have then their psyops are obviously working. Please tell me that’s not case.
I concur with INVAR as well, the time for the ballot has long passed.
We have ballots? I thought we have outcomes, then we go through the election motions.
So if a one party MarxoFascist dictatorship does not look like you expect - it's not a dictatorship?
Congress has already been neutered. SCOTUS has been stacked and corrupted (see John Roberts) and the Machine is furiously working to make sure Pelosi is make speaker in November.
The Soviet Union had "elections" every 6 years. Care to guess how 'free' those 'elections' were? We are become worse than the Soviets - Cook County went national, I've already seen it at work and 2012 ought to have been your first real clue how far gone we are.
I have no hope whatsoever in the institutions that have been corrupted by the MarxoFascists and the Ruling Class.
Watch what happens in this year's 'elections'. You will end up shocked, bewildered, and in a state of disbelief - but maybe then you will understand how late the hour is. There is no remedy or stopping this juggernaut by any civil means. They do not uphold the rule of law now, what makes you think they will adhere to any electoral result they disagree with?
It is far, far later than you realize. Pray and prep, your faith in the system and this people is misplaced in an age of universal deceit.
I see the psyops have worked very well on you. Either way if the shooting war comes we will be on the same side.
Revolt is coming.
No it isn’t. If O-holeCare hasn’t gotten people to take to the streets, nothing will.
Psyops? I judge the fruits and actions and consider the lessons of history and experience, not vain hopes or optimistic expectations.
None of you believed Obama would get a second term. None of you believe Pelosi will be made Speaker again.
You do not know what time it actually is. For all your warnings of 'time growing short' - you fail to recognize that your solution is already so out of date - it's dead.
Hearts will fail in bewilderment if they place any hope in elections from keeping us from where the MarxoFascists and Ruling Class are taking us. And that will kill any chances for successful resistance.
You INVAR (and others) talk as if the alternative course to the ballot box will ever happen. At least fatman is making an attempt to do something. I commend him for that.
We shall see is all I am going to say.
Good commentary.
Uniparty Ping.
Finny’s post is well worthy of you time.
So far INVAR, you have proposed nothing, you’ve only talked trash. Come up with a course of action and let it be known. As I said you’ve already played right into the hands of those hoping to impose dictatorship and you offer nothing in response. You’ve already surrendered and that is the point of the psyops that have been played against you and the sad thing is you don’t even realize it. In fact you seem to be one of the people you have no faith in, I guess there’s some symmetry in that.
Thank you. I am glad to see that some understand the point of my commentary, others not so much. The American people are an amazing lot whom I believe will not allow the flame of Liberty to die, whether that be by ballot or by force of arms, to steal a line from FDR “with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph — so help us God.”
So it is written, so it shall be, again as history repeats itself and it will happen even though some have already surrendered. To them I say stand aside and let us do our work without interference; one must make a choice to either lead, follow or get the heck out of the way.
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