Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Matt Yglesias: Solving Non-Problems
The Other McCain ^ | January 3, 2014 | Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 01/03/2014 5:04:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Slate.com has become a journalistic ghetto, an “Amateur Online Webzine Specializing in Hit-Trolling and Outrage-Fishing,” as Ace calls it, and their “business and economics correspondent” (?) Matt Yglesias gets in the spirit with a 415-word item under this headline:

Why Taxing the Rich Is Great

Yglesias quotes one sentence from a New York Times article:

Matt Hlavin, an entrepreneur in Cleveland who owns seven businesses, mostly in manufacturing, bought three Mercedes last year: a $237,000 SLS AMG and a $165,000 S63 AMG for himself, and a $97,000 GL550 sport utility vehicle for his wife.

Yglesias then proceeds to argue — I’m sure you’re surprised — that it is a bad thing for Matt Hlavin to have three Mercedes.

That’s it. That’s all he’s got.

And when I say that Yglesias “argues” that it’s a bad thing for Hlavin to have three Mercedes, of course, I mean Yglesias just assumes this, and also assumes Slate.com’s readers share his contempt for Hlavin’s wealth and thus are eager to applaud Yglesias’s plan to expropriate and re-distribute Hlavin’s wealth:

[I]f you managed to give it to the truly needy in the United States, you’d create a huge surge in well-being. And of course if you were able to use it to reduce severe third-world poverty, the gains would be incredible. . . . The kind of conspicuous consumption that drives people to buy a $165,000 S63 AMG is basically zero sum, whereas the kind of consumption that a family in the bottom half of the income distribution would finance with more money is not.

The assumptions embedded in Yglesias’s “argument” (which is not actually an argument at all) are enormous. He assumes, for example, that Hlavin and other wealthy people are fixed targets, whose economic behavior will not be modified by higher taxes. They’re supposed to keep earning at the same rate, no matter how steeply you increase the progressive taxes on their income. And, at a second degree of causation, Yglesias evidently never considers whether changes in the economic activity of the “rich” (however you define this) produced by higher taxation might also result in greater hardship for the poor.

The best anti-poverty program in the world is a job, after all, and if higher taxation of the rich results in less capital investment in business, there will be fewer jobs created. You can’t make capitalism work without capital, and Yglesias’s judgment that someone with three Mercedes has too much capital — too much wealth –requires a belief that excess wealth is an economic problem.

Why? Yglesias never adequately explains this. He simply assumes that Hlavin’s wealth is a problem and then proceeds to “solve” it, without any real consideration of obstacles to implementing his redistributionist policy, or the potential harms of such a policy:

I’d say the taxation should focus on Hlavin’s consumption spending more than his income per se, and should be designed to especially hit activities with substantial environmental impacts. But the point is that taking the money Matt Hlavin is spending at the Mercedes dealership and giving it to other people is a huge winner.

Alternative proposal: If there were a tax on bullsh*t, Matt Yglesias could pay off the national debt by the end of the year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; msm; sss; taxes; wealth

1 posted on 01/03/2014 5:04:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet over 90% of the people who have three Mercedes are Democrats.


2 posted on 01/03/2014 5:06:26 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
[I]f you managed to give it to the truly needy in the United States, you’d create a huge surge in well-being.

He hasn't told us what the man produces in his seven manufacturing companies, and he hasn't considered that what he manufactures already creates a huge surge in well-being, and already makes this world a better place. Matt Hlavin makes this world a better place every day of the year by what he does with his life.

Matt Yglesias, as far as we know, doesn't make a darned thing.

3 posted on 01/03/2014 5:09:07 PM PST by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron

ANd Yglesias can’t sing, either.

Just another leftist trolling for his “15 seconds of shame”.


4 posted on 01/03/2014 5:14:18 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yglesias only looks at one side of the equation. If the government takes the money this guy spent on Mercedes, the government would spend it on war/abortion/drones to kill innocent people/corruption/supporting third world dictators/cronyism/violating people's civil rights/general corruption and probably many other terrible things.

Yglesias is a war monger.

5 posted on 01/03/2014 5:15:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marron

MATT HLAVIN: President, Thogus Products Co., 37
(FORTY UNDER 40 CLASS OF 2012)
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20121119/FORTY12/311199979


6 posted on 01/03/2014 5:16:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
What the full-retard liberals who read this crap don't have any concept of is, that yeah there's some guy who owns 3 expensive cars.

So when they break down as these cars are wont to do, what does the greedy owner do? Goes to a shop to get them fixed, gets gas from a local merchant, maybe buys a Coke and a candy bar in the convenience store.

Point being that liberal cretins don't "get" that rich people actually make other "little people" rich or at least comfortable.

Perfect example, those nasty, filthy "private jet owners". Who does Obama thinks maintains them, or flies them, or packs the luggage on them?

Hint: Just people who are skilled and provide quality service.

If a limo driver is rude to Beyonce, guess who's butt is out of a job?

Rich SOBs want to be pampered. If someone can provide such pampering, they'll be rewarded.

7 posted on 01/03/2014 5:18:25 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Mine didn't cost anything like those did.

8 posted on 01/03/2014 5:20:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: boop
Selling things to the wealthy is one of the best businesses to be in and always has been. Go through any business magazine or Robb Report and look at the ads.
9 posted on 01/03/2014 5:23:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow. The man sounds impressive. I admire people like him.

You know, we probably most of us have a bias, in which we imagine the world would be a better place if more people were like me. Matt Yglesias looks at Matt Hlavin and sees someone as foreign to him as an alien from another planet. He doesn’t think, man, that guy runs rings around me. It doesn’t occur to him to admire the man for what he has built, but only to aspire to take it from him.


10 posted on 01/03/2014 5:23:13 PM PST by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. There is no country in the world where so many provisions are established for them; so many hospitals to receive them when they are sick or lame, founded and maintained by voluntary charities; so many alms-houses for the aged of both sexes, together with a solemn general law made by the rich to subject their estates to a heavy tax for the support of the poor. Under all these obligations, are our poor modest, humble, and thankful; and do they use their best endeavors to maintain themselves, and lighten our shoulders of this burthen? On the contrary, I affirm that there is no country in the world in which the poor are more idle, dissolute, drunken, and insolent."

--Benjamin Franklin
On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor
1766


11 posted on 01/03/2014 5:24:37 PM PST by Tawiskaro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Glad you mentioned the Robb Report. I used to buy that magazine, not because I thought what horrible people the "rich" are, but, how can I get in on some of that action?

You are correct. Many if not all of the ads are for services that some "little guy" can provide.

Example, security systems, guard dog trainers, even hired private bodyguards.

Hell even luxury house cleaners and pool technicians.

If you can tap into that market by being the best, discreet service provider, you can get "rich" yourself.

12 posted on 01/03/2014 5:30:56 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: boop

Old friend of mine has such a service:
http://www.reynoldsprotection.com/


13 posted on 01/03/2014 5:36:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: boop
I think it is wrong that someone bought three Mercedes; what are Porch, BMW, Audi, Bentley, Jaguar and Aston Martin just not good enough. Its his money to spend how he likes, but when it comes to luxury sport autos I say celebrate diversity. Maybe next year he could buy three Teslas to make the bunny huggers all arm and fuzzy.
14 posted on 01/03/2014 6:15:35 PM PST by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
“I bet over 90% of the people who have three Mercedes are Democrats.”

Bingo, you hit it on the head. And I will bet most of the others are absolute Rinos. Taxing the rich was never something I endorsed but I am changing my mind. The more we lowered the taxes on them and their companies the more they became liberals and the more the rinos among them became feckless and duplitious. It is like when their taxes were lowered then government spending became a source of income rather than a tax burden. Since even the amnesty loving rino rich are trying to turn us into a socialist country through design, stupidity or greed (again amnesty) I think they should get a taste of what is coming their way in advance. I think we should start taxing them until the border is secure and we have fair coverage from their corporate media.

15 posted on 01/03/2014 7:05:04 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: marron

Matt Yglesias, as far as we know, doesn’t make a darned thing.

wrong
he makes me crazy.
well, he is not alone
all democrats
do.


16 posted on 01/03/2014 7:15:36 PM PST by genghis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

As with most liberals, Yglesias seems to think that money is a fixed-quantity resource i.e. if one person has a lot, then someone else can’t get it. There was a “meme” picture on Facebook some time ago that talked about how the rich were “hoarding” all the money, and that meant that there wasn’t any left for the “poor”. So in the economically-illiterate world of the typical liberal, it really *is* horrible that this guy dropped close to half a mil on expensive cars, because to them, that means that that money is now gone forever, wasted on a luxury.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 8:01:55 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: boop; 2ndDivisionVet

>>If you can tap into that market by being the best, discreet service provider, you can get “rich” yourself.

I have a friend out in L.A. who is making a good living as an event photographer. Part of his success is that he does celebrity events and has a reputation that his pictures NEVER leak to TMZ, National Enquirer, or the like. I’ve known him for a decade, and while he has mentioned a few names, even I have never seen a pic.

It’s amazing what quality service and integrity will do for you.


18 posted on 01/04/2014 11:22:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson