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To: VanDeKoik

Think frightened sailors on the Nina the Pinta and the Santa Maria. Most were scared out of their minds because they “ Knew” they were going to sail off the edge of the earth and die. They could not get their head around the “fact” that the earth is round.
It is called a paradigm shift.

Now fast forward . Your at LAX with 10lb. of gold in a suitcase. What do you suppose the TSA is going to do with it?

Same airport, this time $100.000.00 cash in a suitcase, what do you suppose the TSA is going to do with it? You will never see it again.

Same senerio but you have the password to your Bitcoin wallet containing $5.000.000.00 in your memory. What do you suppose the TSA can do about it, NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!!!

This is power and freedom heretofore never know to man. Is the light bulb starting to come on? I hope so!


17 posted on 01/04/2014 11:55:48 AM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: TsonicTsunami08

I think the article was written, to scare people away from “money” the government can’t confiscate.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 1:07:55 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: TsonicTsunami08; VanDeKoik; narses; grania; TheGipperWasRight; RichInOC; SeekAndFind; ...

When you defend a concept and/or give examples, it's best not to sound like a ShamWOW and other "As Seen on TV" hucksters.

Let's try these, far more realistic everyday scenarios instead:

You're at LAX/LAS/MIA/ORD/JFK/LGA/SEA/etc. with a 3oz checkbook in your pocket that has $100,000.00 on account. What do you suppose the TSA is going to do with it?

Same airport(s), this time with an AmEx Centurion/"Black" Card, and BoA/Merrill Lynch Accolades card, and Citi's Chairman (Private Bank) card, and Stratus Rewards Visa/"White" Card (by recommendation and invitation only), and Coutts World card (QE II is a client). What do you suppose the TSA is going to do with it?

Same scenario, but you have a smartphone/tablet/computer which can access your business and/or brokerage accounts containing in excess of $5,000,000.00 in funds and/or credit lines, as well as Paypal, Square and free wire services, which are biometrically and multi-layer password-protected and can transfer funds immediately converted on deposit into A$, BP£, C$, €, S$, ¥ etc., at no additional cost. What do you suppose the TSA can do about it, NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!!!

since well before Western Union, actually right around Renaissance (read about Banco de' Medici [1397-1494], for example).

Seriously? What paradigm shift? Bitcoin didn't invent electronic transfers and e-payment, nor was it first in encrypting financial transactions, nor did it make your unit of account and store of value more convenient or secure than accepted fiat currencies - quite the opposite, in fact (see Bitcoin is Gold 2.0: But how can it be regulated? - FR, post #22, 2013 December 28

Plus, you very likely be getting something in return for using your credit card and banking services, like the 'rewards'/'points' and the interest on deposits... Oh, do you earn any interest on your b1tc01ns in the decentralized Bitcoin "bank"? Could you ensure or hedge your bitcoins, if need be?

And if people think that they are getting the bitcoin transfers "for free" (i.e., cheaper than credit cards) then they have been seriously misled. As it turns out, Bitcoin e-payment fee structure** is generally more expensive than major credit cards (which typically charge about 2%-3% of transaction amount).

Which means it's much more beneficial for bitcoin miners - who are getting these transaction... er, "mining" fees - to have the BTC valued at USD$1000.00 than at USD$10.00 - in other words, have the BTC economy 100 times larger in generally accepted fiat currencies would likely get about 100 times larger "commission" fee.

So claiming that there is no interest on anyone's part in manipulating the value/price of bitcoin "currency" is quite false. Bitcoin's finite structure alone is, in itself, a manipulation of bitcoin value. Oh, and what happens where there are no more bitcoins to "mine"? The finite limit on the total amount of bitcoins issued makes it, by its very own definition, a FIFO (First-In-First-Out) pyramid scheme - where generally, the first one in wins the most and the last one out loses the most.

** Bitcoin Is an Expensive Way to Pay for Stuff - BL, by Matt Levine, 2014 January 02

Yes, I hope so, too, for the sake of those who might be taken in by the slick bitcoin "counter-culture freedom" selling campaign. Educating about potential and risks of the speculative investment in a digital commodity (sans Ponzi/pyramid element) is one thing, promotion of expensive e-payment mechanism as a "freedom" "currency" as an alternative to the "fiat currency" by miners who benefit from increase in transaction volume and/or transaction value is quite another.

If there is strength in numbers, then the next cryptocurrency should make it really big, I suppose:
Kanye West-inspired currency 'to launch soon' - BBC, by , 2014 January 03

Hurry up, there is still time to get in on the freebie Coinyes:


21 posted on 01/05/2014 3:13:44 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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