Posted on 01/05/2014 2:41:49 AM PST by paudio
The workers voted 51 percent to 49 percent in favor, responding to pressures from top union officials and Washington State lawmakers, who warned that Boeing might place 777X production elsewhere, potentially costing Washington more than 10,000 jobs.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Interesting ... right into and almost through the next preisidency.
51-49 is pretty damn close .... the sensible people in that union have a really bare majority
Yeah, sure union officials told the membership to vote for this. I believe that about as much as I believe Obama is a Christian.
Actually the union bosses may indeed have begged them to vote yes. Can you imagine losing 10,000 dues paying members to some RTW state?
Union bosses ought to be lined up blind-folded in front of a Gatling gun and pulped.
Or do like North Korea ....
Woof!
The local bosses told them to vote no, and didn’t even want them to vote on the new offer by Boeing. The national union told them to vote on it, and to vote yes.
I have no doubts that Boeing would have had production for this move to a union-free state if it had been a no vote. Boeing’s latest offer was not that much different than their first offer iirc.
What the heck kind of a machinists union do they call themselves if they can’t put their workplace out of business??? Boy, the old Eastern Airlines local could teach these guys a thing or two ...
Thanks for the clarification. The local bosses apparently still believe you can get Sauvignon Blanc by squeezing a rock if you just apply enough pressure.
The 49% means sabotage on the planes they make.
A friend has a son who is a machinist and works at the Everett facility.
He was predicting after the first vote lost that Boeing would sweeten the offer, but they would still reject it.
I predicted a re-vote and that it would pass once the dumchits realized Boeing was serious about moving it to a different state.
You can bet your last dollar that if Boeing went through all the trouble of re-locating it, it would be to go to a non-union environment, the National and local unions losing 30,000+ dues-paying jobs in the process.
The national group saw it. The local leadership still have their heads up their rears!
I expect there will be a change in the local leadership.
Something that really got me over the last few weeks is how many of the Unionized workers were out there giving interviews and calling Boeing management evil incarnate and greedy SOB’s and whatever!
Amazing!
If I was a manager at B and saw one of my workers on the tube spewing as much hate and vitriol as that, he’d be out of the door in a heartbeat!
My {now dead} uncle, was a union boss at a local Westinghouse plant that in it's prime employed 12,000 union workers.
He spewed the came kind of commie clap trap, and too many of the sheeple bought it and fought and struck and sabotaged the company at every turn.
Finally, the company had enough, and the plant now is empty.
Stupid bastards.
Multiple stories at link indicating the Union leadership was AGAINST this contract.
The Union caved and the NYT is trying to put lipstick on the Pig
Boeing offered them EIGHT YEARS of almost GUARANTEED EMPLOYMENT!
How many Americans right now would fall to their knees and thank God if they even got TWO YEARS at the starting machinists rate and benefits, amounting to something like 66K per year?
How many FReepers even?
There’d be one hell of a lot of takers!
You can bet your last dollar that if Boeing went through all the trouble of re-locating it, it would be to go to a non-union environment,,,,
*****
and also, Boeing would be able to build a new state-of-the-art facility, not keep trying to renovate the old factories at Everett.
Normally true, but I think part of the fine print here was no work stoppages.
I just think you can’t bad mouth your boss in public, then at your yearly review go in there and tell your boss what a wonderful dude he is and how you love working at the joint.
It’s hypocrisy.
If these people are so unhappy let them spend 14 months making Frappa-Cappa-Mocha-Childos at some coffee joint and live on the tips.
Capital costs are going to be huge, no matter where. Boeing yesterday after the vote announced intentions to build a 1.2 million SF facility to manufacture the composite wing.
They apparently can’t transport the wing hundreds or thousands of miles to where the fuselage is put together.
This is a major, major deal. I’m kinda thinking Boeing realized it tossed snake eyes on the 787 (hereafter called “the Edsel of airplanes”), and is positioning the 777-X to be SOA for passenger aircraft in the future.
Of course you are right and this is why the Unions will be gone within 10-15 years. They have lost public support to a truly remarkable degree.
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