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To: RedHeeler

Israel would be better off if we never went into Iraq. Saddam was a Stalinist mass murderer but a secular one, he did an effective job controlling both Sunni radicals at home and Shiite lunatics in Iran.

The removal of Saddam greatly strengthened Iran, giving it the clout and political cover for developing nuclear weapons.

Even worst, the Iraq War is a direct cause of the Arab Spring with destabilization of secular governments and rise in fundamentalist political power. Right now Israel is facing the prospect of two Al-Qaeda states arising on its border, one in Egypt and one in Syria.

The US public has had it with the region, there is no political will to start another war in the region, one that will be bloodier than Iraq/Afghanistan or even Vietnam. Iran will have nukes and give them to Hezbollah, Syria, maybe even Hamas. Egypt, Syria, and Iraq may become Al Qaeda outposts. If Israel is attacked they may have to fend for themselves.

Bush was worst for Israel and US foreign policy than Carter, and Obama is continuing the trend.


5 posted on 01/05/2014 3:53:43 AM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BurningOak

Israel will survive this current world action. The US, perhaps will not. You have a good insight...


7 posted on 01/05/2014 4:19:44 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: BurningOak

Almost everything you’ve listed is either flat out wrong, hyperbole and myopia.

Excactly what type “clout and political cover” was bestowed upon Iran as a result of our invasion of Iraq? Considering that Iran has received nuclear plant development support from Russia and Pakistan since the ‘70s your assertion is groundless and absurd.

Likewise your claim that Egypt and Syria are Alqaeda states is also absurd as both nations are in vigorous confrontation with Alqaeda.

And Alqaeda is a negligible threat to Israel. When was the last time the Israeli and Alqaeda air forces clashed vs. clashes by Israeli and Syrian air force?

Most conspicuous is the fact you’re conveniently forgetting the previous extensive support of Alqueda by the “secular governments” you bemoan which are now under pressure by the Arab Spring. Instead of supporting terrorists they now have to fight them in their own countries. This is due to mass public opposition to their dictatorship by citizens desiring the same sort of self-representation Iraq now has.

So you want the good ‘ole days of state-sponsored terrorism, attacks within Israel and regional wars every 10 years eh? Here’s a hint. Since the beginning of the Arab Spring Israel has enjoyed unprecedented peace within and on it’s borders. The terrorists for the most part have lost their state sponsors and are now attacking the prior benefactors under the cover of the popular opposition to those states’ dictatorships by those wanting representative governance as in Iraq.


37 posted on 01/10/2014 4:32:20 AM PST by Justa
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