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To: mrsmith
The Founders discussed past governments and societies and understood them and the nature of civilization well. It is a lesson in both governance and Man to read their words.

Which words? You mean the words they use when they reject all former systems of governments by analyzing the destruction they imposed on their societies? You mean the words they used when they started with "We the People" and created a new government based on exactly the principles I quoted, and which you have deemed childish? Those words?

Of course their help in this matter is limited as they left such matters to the states.

And what does it mean to "leave those matters to the States"? Didn't you leave out a part of that phrase? As in, the States or the People? And doesn't that refer to the limited government DERIVED from We the People? And how is that an unhelpful limitation by the Founders? Because they left things to the States and the People? Because they put the People over the government? Is that what you call unhelpful? SO you find the very structure of the Constitution unhelpful?

You know, I think you do. I think that is exactly how you feel about the Constitution - that it is unhelpful. But then again, I think the Founders wrote it specifically to be unhelpful to people like you. I think that's exactly what they had in mind when they wrote it - thank God.

51 posted on 01/05/2014 3:33:37 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

The people who founded this nation did not support polygamy and gay marriage, even if someone started a church supporting it.

You are pretending that America was founded without marriage law, that isn’t true.

You need to find a new tact to promote gay marriage and polygamy.


56 posted on 01/05/2014 3:42:47 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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