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Is it almost the end for black and white televisions? Just 11,500 households still have license…(UK)
Mail on Sunday (UK) ^ | 13:38 EST, 5 January 2014 | Chris Brooke

Posted on 01/05/2014 6:38:42 PM PST by Olog-hai

They are generally regarded as historic relics and part of a bygone era of broadcasting history. But even in today’s digital age, there are 11,550 households in the country still watching black and white television, official figures reveal.

The number of black and white licenses have dropped dramatically in recent years and the total has decreased by a further 12 percent over the past year. […]

The cost of a black and white TV license remains frozen at £49 ($80.37) until the BBC Charter Review in 2016. A color license costs £145.50 ($238.65). …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blackandwhitetv; colortv; socialism; tax; theend; tvlicense; tvtax
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Full Daily Mail title:
Is it almost the end for black and white televisions? Just 11,500 households still have a license for one—and it’s a third the price of color
Talk about an anachronism, never mind the socialist aspect of the whole thing.
1 posted on 01/05/2014 6:38:43 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They weren’t real common in my childhood, now they’re virtually extinct.


2 posted on 01/05/2014 6:43:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

I expect they’re still popular in North Korea and a few other places.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 6:44:04 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai

You need a license in Britain to have a TV? That’s weird.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 6:44:44 PM PST by madison10
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To: Olog-hai

I’m not sure I understand. People in the UK need a license to have a TV in their own homes?


5 posted on 01/05/2014 6:46:04 PM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: Olog-hai

You need a license to watch tv in Great Britain? my first reaction to this was, “holy crap! What a fascist country”. But then I thought about it.

We should do the same thing here. you should have to pass a test, and buy a license before you are allowed to watch tv. That would solve a LOT of problems.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 6:46:33 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: madison10
You need a license in Britain to have a TV? That’s weird.

The British TV license funds BBC.

You pay for BBC whether you watch it or not.

7 posted on 01/05/2014 6:47:22 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: TaxPayer2000
Yes, along with countries on this list. All about squeezing the public to fund state-run TV; they “pay for” receiving the broadcast signal.
8 posted on 01/05/2014 6:48:00 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: TaxPayer2000

Yes - People in the UK need a license to have a TV in their own homes.

The B&W license is cheaper, which is probably the only reason anybody still has one.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 6:50:51 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: madison10

“You need a license in Britain to have a TV? That’s weird.”

True. Color TV’s, radios, satellite TV, etc. Effing’ draconian, big brother type stuff. I personally know a Brit who went to Best Buy and started weeping because the BB guys didn’t ask him for a license.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 6:52:03 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: cripplecreek
They weren’t real common in my childhood, now they’re virtually extinct.

A youngin huh?

11 posted on 01/05/2014 6:52:22 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Olog-hai

The best TV is in black and white!!!!!

http://free-classic-tv-shows.com/
Check out ‘Terry and the Pirates’ (under Adventure) or any of them.


12 posted on 01/05/2014 6:53:34 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

You can read about it in this wiki article. It’s 145.50 UK pounds per year and 49 UK pounds if you have a black and white set.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom


13 posted on 01/05/2014 6:55:02 PM PST by xp38
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To: Olog-hai

14 posted on 01/05/2014 6:56:16 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Olog-hai

I got my first TV at age 12 in 1988 and it was black and white.


15 posted on 01/05/2014 6:59:40 PM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: max americana; madison10

And the enforcement arm had special electronics-equipped trucks that could tell if you had a TV, and then they’d cross-reference that against licenses. Have a TV and no license? Big fine!


16 posted on 01/05/2014 7:00:30 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: madison10

They tax EVERYTHING in GB. You wouldn’t believe the cost of a pint of bitter and a pack of smokes.

I can remember when I lived there the dreaded “TV License Van” fairy tale they would tell people. Apparently (and I think fabricated), they had vans that would detect if someone had a TV in their home. Then they would get a knock on the door. I kid you not. Used to scare people into paying for (Anti-American) “Aunty Beeb”. It’s like us being forced to pay for PBS.....and all its propaganda.

BTW, they have a VAT there, too. At the time it was 17.5%. Be CAREFUL when people wish for the same here.


17 posted on 01/05/2014 7:04:33 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Olog-hai

Lots of Mooslim countries missing from any of the lists. I suppose the IBS (infidel broadcasting systems) are prohibited.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 7:04:42 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: max americana

I listen to HAM quite a bit out of GB. Heard one older gent say to the other that he couldn’t talk politics because his license would be revoked. NO freedom of speech.


19 posted on 01/05/2014 7:06:21 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: madison10

Go on YouTube and watch the UK TV Taxman confrontation videos-its awesome!

Its like the DUI/inland border checkpoint refusals in the US, these people know their rights and stick it to the man! LOL


20 posted on 01/05/2014 7:08:46 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Olog-hai

I remember when my parents finally got color TV, close to the last ones in my neighborhood.


21 posted on 01/05/2014 7:08:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: madison10; TaxPayer2000

Germany too.

I assume most European countries do as well.


22 posted on 01/05/2014 7:09:27 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: madison10

Is it any wonder we started shooting at them?


23 posted on 01/05/2014 7:12:10 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: madison10

the license fees pay for the BBC, which means it is vastly wealthy, radical left and inefficient as all get out


24 posted on 01/05/2014 7:13:15 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I don’t think its a way to fund TV though. Its a stupid thing


25 posted on 01/05/2014 7:13:48 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cripplecreek

I bought my first color TV around 2000, a 13 incher, it was more TV than I needed and I don’t have television, but I do watch some youtube on it, oddly enough, mostly back and white youtube offerings.


26 posted on 01/05/2014 7:13:48 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Olog-hai

27 posted on 01/05/2014 7:14:10 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("The power to tax is the power to destroy." -- Chief Justice John Marshall, 1819)
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To: sickoflibs

Ok, I’ll join in -—

I was 12 yrs old (1979) when we got our first color TV...a humongo console thing, which also happened to have a REMOTE CONTROL. Be still my heart.... we were all that and a bag o’chips for awhile.


28 posted on 01/05/2014 7:15:05 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Olog-hai

I would pay $100 per year for a TV license if and only if it eliminated advertisements.


29 posted on 01/05/2014 7:17:16 PM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
They tax EVERYTHING in GB. You wouldn’t believe the cost of a pint of bitter and a pack of smokes.

Last trip through London, a pint was $14/American. That was 2006. I don't smoke, so can't tell you how much those were......

$14 for a pint of WARM beer. Blecch.

30 posted on 01/05/2014 7:18:34 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: sickoflibs

We had B&W until about 1971. Bought a new Zenith 19” in color at that time. Damned thing was in the shop more than we watched it.


31 posted on 01/05/2014 7:19:00 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Ah! The TV Detectng Van.

Now I know where Monty Python’s Cat Detectng Van came from.


32 posted on 01/05/2014 7:20:18 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Gamecock
I assume most European countries do as well.

Belgium, France, Netherlands don't require a TV license. Can't speak to any other EU country.

33 posted on 01/05/2014 7:20:19 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: umgud

Good old black and whites huh?! Old days: “Hey honey, on yer way in to the kitchen to grab me another beer, adjust the horizontal...the damn picture is rollin’ again”!!!


34 posted on 01/05/2014 7:20:22 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: workerbee
RE :”I was 12 yrs old (1979) when we got our first color TV...a humongo console thing, which also happened to have a REMOTE CONTROL. Be still my heart.... we were all that and a bag o’chips for awhile.”

Holy crap!

My dad finally got us one in 1970 and I remember telling the teacher in school all excited and some of the other kids laughed because they got one years earlier in the 1960s.

It had a remote too.

Hell, we got cable TV in 1976 when it first came through. Dad didnt want to pay for us to go out to see movies anymore,

35 posted on 01/05/2014 7:21:40 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: madison10
You need a license in Britain to have a TV? That’s weird.

I don't know if they still do it, but the used to have truck drive around looking for TV signal emissions from houses so they could bust unlicensed owners.

Sounds pretty Big Brother.

Weird rules require weird enforcement.

36 posted on 01/05/2014 7:24:32 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: sickoflibs

LOL, I don’t think our area even had access to cable TV until the early ‘80s...? Even so, if you knew my dad, you’d know why we were “latecomers” to certain technologies. Yeah... I can laugh now... but only cuz I’m married to a techie software guy LOL!


37 posted on 01/05/2014 7:25:55 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

IIRC, it’s because if someone heard something “offensive” he would get a complaint filed against him and this lose his license.

If you tweet something offensive you also risk fines.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 7:25:56 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: okie01
The British TV license funds BBC.

You pay for BBC whether you watch it or not.

It's the same thing as your cable TV bill in the States, except a hell of a lot cheaper. And BBC has some excellent programming.

39 posted on 01/05/2014 7:26:06 PM PST by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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To: Fzob

Do we 80 channels of PBS?


40 posted on 01/05/2014 7:26:49 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: headstamp 2
RE :”We had B&W until about 1971. Bought a new Zenith 19” in color at that time. Damned thing was in the shop more than we watched it.”

Americans made really good cars back then too.

My first car bought in the late 70s cost more in repairs than the original price of the car new.

It was a Ford.

They made lots of money fixing it and the unions made out great too, till those evil Japanese showed up and sold us cars that worked.

Man I have those sneaky Japs. It was like Pearl Harbor II

41 posted on 01/05/2014 7:28:57 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: madison10

At first, I was interested in the topic of black and white television sets, but I was astounded by the fact that you need to have some sort of “license” to operate a television set in England. That part of the story is mind-boggling. How long has this been going on? How does the government know if you have one or not?
If we had not already declared our independence in 1776, I could imagine the colonies having a Boston “TV” Party, tossing all of our black and white sets, and our color sets, into the harbor along with the tea.


42 posted on 01/05/2014 7:29:57 PM PST by manforallseasons
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To: bobby.223

I remember my father (in the late fifties) pulling tubes out of the back of the Motorola. Then we would go to the hardware store and plug them into a machine to find the bad one. We would get a replacement and then go home and put them all back in. This was usually accompanied by some choice language.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 7:32:35 PM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: icwhatudo

BBC PC License?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06tBY6wX88&list=PL09C4C024C44478FD


44 posted on 01/05/2014 7:33:58 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Sounds pretty Big Brother.

Weird rules require weird enforcement.


I think the license is in lieu of having to listen to commercials?


45 posted on 01/05/2014 7:36:02 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: okie01
You pay for BBC whether you watch it or not.

The funny thing is that Top Gear is probably one of their top rated shows and they bash liberalism and anything green without mercy. Tesla Motors unsuccessfully tried to sue Jeremy Clarkson for a bad review of their electric car.
46 posted on 01/05/2014 7:39:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

License to watch TV.??... if you got only one eye does it cost half price?...


47 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:47 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Not everything BBC is bad.


48 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: icwhatudo

TV Detector Van Licensing Propaganda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NmdUcmLFkw&list=PL09C4C024C44478FD


49 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:54 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: okie01

Kind of like BET here.


50 posted on 01/05/2014 7:41:02 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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