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To: IbJensen

The Pope is an uneducated dangerous individual who should keep his mouth shut so people don’t realize just how twisted his “thinking” is


4 posted on 01/07/2014 5:58:55 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Don’t know whether this guy is totally clueless or is playing both ends against the middle. Either way, the downward spiral of the increasingly secular Catholic church continues.


7 posted on 01/07/2014 6:44:49 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: yldstrk
I'm going to be careful here, so as not to offend you. I think the Pope is an educated man. He has spent most of his time studying philosophy and theology, which is common for most Cardinals and former Popes. He is fluent in German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Latin and English.

I know many are trying to take their bearings on the type of Pope he is setting out to be. Often this leads to misrepresentations of his past or especially current comments. Despite what many might think or read, here's a few pieces of information about his past in Argentina.....

"Bergoglio's influence seemed to stop at the presidential palace door after Nestor Kirchner and then his wife, Cristina Fernandez, took over the Argentina's government. His outspoken criticism couldn't prevent Argentina from becoming the Latin American country to legalize gay marriage, or stop Fernandez from promoting free contraception and artificial insemination."

And " His church had no say when the Argentine Supreme Court expanded access to legal abortions in rape cases, and when Bergoglio argued that gay adoptions discriminate against children, Fernandez compared his tone to "medieval times and the Inquisition."

These quotes come from Politico, which is hardly a conservative organization, yet they printed his clear positions on both gay marriage and adoptions. There are some controversial things he took on while in Argentina which offended some of the oppressed, who wanted him to stand up to the dictatorship. Feel free to read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/pope-francis-biography-key-facts-life-in-latin-america-and-background-88818_Page2.html#ixzz2pjBaYDu8

So I can see that you think he believes different things that you do, but in trying to keep discussions about him in a realistic realm, I don't think calling him uneducated is the right descriptor. While you may not agree with him on everything, I don't think he's uneducated. Nor do I think he's that far from most decent people's beliefs on many topics of the day.

His challenge is he's dealing with a church that has badly damaged itself after ignoring a pedophelia problem. He also grew up in a very impoverished land, where caring for the poor seems to be his biggest single concern. We in the United States have a bad taste in our mouth for how the Democrats go about caring for the poor (appropriating our tax dollars in wasteful amounts). I suspect Pope Francis would be stunned at that waste....but that's another matter. But uneducated? Not the right description.

Chers

ig

10 posted on 01/07/2014 7:59:46 AM PST by irish guard
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