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Putting the Chill on Discipline: Institutionalized Racism
am thinker ^ | 1/9/14 | j robert smith

Posted on 01/09/2014 4:37:38 AM PST by bestintxas

The Associated Press, via Breitbart, reports that Attorney General Eric Holder wants public schools to back off zero tolerance policies that he alleges discriminates against minority students. Putting a chill on discipline and stymieing schools from ousting miscreants means lots of public schools -- particularly inner-city ones -- will do even less educating.

Holder 's guidelines aim at halting "targeting minorities," but, practically, will accomplish defining deviancy downward yet again in urban minority-dominated schools -- that's mostly black and Hispanic kids from broken families and single-parent households.

The A.G.'s guidelines are another tacit admission that there are enormous dysfunctions in poorer minority communities that liberal prescriptions can't arrest and change. In place of reality-based solutions and constructive engagement, Holder -- on behalf of the president -- desires to excuse liberal urban failures by rationalizing and dismissing near- or outright criminal behavior on the part of minority students.

Reports the AP:

Attorney General Eric Holder said the problem often stems from well intentioned "zero-tolerance" policies that too often inject the criminal justice system into the resolution of problems. Zero tolerance policies, a tool that became popular in the 1990s, often spell out uniform and swift punishment for offenses such as truancy, smoking or carrying a weapon. Violators can lose classroom time or become saddled with a criminal record.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: holder; institutionalracism; mandatoryprofiling; racialprofiling; racistholder; schooldiscipline
There is nothing in America that the libs don't see as racism.
1 posted on 01/09/2014 4:37:38 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

I think that they will be surprised when the teachers who have put up with the feces throwing criminal behavior decide that it is time to quit.


2 posted on 01/09/2014 4:47:14 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: tom paine 2

My daughter worked for a while in a big city public school, and boy, are they reaping what they have sown.

In the 90’s, the schools were telling the kids that their parents have not right to spank them. Now they have a bunch of wild brats that cannot be disciplined at all.


3 posted on 01/09/2014 4:55:42 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: bestintxas

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink

You can send a kid to school, but you can’t make him think


4 posted on 01/09/2014 4:59:28 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bestintxas

I do think that the zero tolerance stuff needs to go. When our son entered middle school (he’s 34) I remember the parents’ meeting where the principal said that every three minutes these kids think of sex and/or punching the kid next to him/her. Then he laughed. In other words, he had common sense. Same kid cut himself in art on an exacto knife and you would have thought it was an international crisis. He was not treated for the cut, he was isolated by the nurse who literally threw a bandaid at him and told him to wash it and bind it himself. I’m surprised that they didn’t call the CDC and the EPA. Later our daughter was suspended for having a pseudophed that I had given her in her pocket. She and some friends were being searched for supposed possession of drugs. I think that it all started going downhill around then.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 5:32:41 AM PST by Mercat
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“I do think that the zero tolerance stuff needs to go. When our son entered middle school (he’s 34) I remember the parents’ meeting where the principal said that every three minutes these kids think of sex and/or punching the kid next to him/her. Then he laughed. In other words, he had common sense. Same kid cut himself in art on an exacto knife and you would have thought it was an international crisis. He was not treated for the cut, he was isolated by the nurse who literally threw a bandaid at him and told him to wash it and bind it himself. I’m surprised that they didn’t call the CDC and the EPA. Later our daughter was suspended for having a pseudophed that I had given her in her pocket. She and some friends were being searched for supposed possession of drugs. I think that it all started going downhill around then.”

Holder is not making the point about removing zero tolerance, but for removing zero tolerance only for minorities.

It is a racism attempt at its core, not a disciplinary one.

Big diff


6 posted on 01/09/2014 6:18:44 AM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrewed)
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To: kevslisababy

More like, in the 60’s, the government was telling women that their children didn’t need fathers.


7 posted on 01/09/2014 6:20:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bestintxas

White boys are disciplined at twice the rate as Asian boys.

I DEMAND JUSTICE!

(just demonstrating the absurdity)


8 posted on 01/09/2014 6:20:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bestintxas
I see a future call to your police department.

Police "how may we help you?"

Home owner "someone has broken into my house"

Police "please describe the suspect"

Home owner "he's a black male about 6 foot...."

Police "let me stop you right there, we have reached our quota of black suspects today, we could put down for a response call tomorrow."

Home owner "never mind I have a gun....."

9 posted on 01/09/2014 6:34:36 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: bestintxas
Smith has a lot of good points in his article, but makes the usual conservative mistake of blaming "bad" schools for a lot of the problems. The facts are: the students usually create the bad schools, and not the other way around.

I'm reading Robert Weissburg's "Bad Students, not Bad Schools" and he pretty must quashes the idea that every kid is brimming with love for learning but foiled by bad schools and bad teachers. A great many mostly black schools are simply holding tanks for future criminals. Few of the students are interested in learning, and most instruction is wasted on many these youths. Better schools or teachers will do little or nothing to change the bad students into good students. Many teachers have been assaulted and hurt badly not only by violent students but also by the parents of violent students who don't like white teachers telling them about their kid's problems.

As liberals are fooled by the idea that racism causes poor students, conservatives are fooled by the idea that charter schools and better teachers will save these poor students. They couldn't be more wrong. There is only a very small percentage of these students who will be helped by better schools and teachers. But nothing can help the great majority of the students. They don't want to be helped.

10 posted on 01/09/2014 6:37:53 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Mercat
"pseudophed"

You mean Sudafed?

11 posted on 01/09/2014 6:41:27 AM PST by driftless2
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To: bestintxas

Truthfully, long ago the states should have intervened against “zero tolerance” policies in schools, because it is both school teachers and administrators abrogating their disciplinary responsibilities, and it also means children facing arrest by police officers for extremely petty and childish reasons, not serious criminal activities.

If teachers and administrators are terrified of lawsuits, this too is something states should intervene to stop, on the grounds that schools are “alma maters” (temporary foster parents), so should be exempt from lawsuits on frivolous grounds. If states permit limited corporal punishment in the schools, there should be no possibility of litigation at the state level about it, unless grievous physical harm has occurred to the child.

Please note that none of the above has anything to do with racism.

This being said, states should also consider boarding schools for at-risk elementary age children, based on parental misconduct. That is, if parents have previous convictions for violent crimes, or crimes against children, or gang membership, or even substantial poverty, it should be grounds for that state’s child protective services to declare them “semi-unfit” as parents, and to put their young children in a state boarding school.

This would not strip their parents of their legal parentage, nor would it in any way be seen as prejudicial against their children, but it would guarantee that their children had a proper diet, proper education, and were capable of attending secondary school on graduation.

States might then even consider providing a military secondary school for junior and senior high school age children whose parents were still unable to raise them properly. This would give those children better opportunities for success than an ordinary public school.

In effect it would break the welfare, dependency and crime cycle, and give the children a fresh start.


12 posted on 01/09/2014 8:21:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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“Please note that none of the above has anything to do with racism”

The fear of being accused of racism had a lot to do with these developments.


13 posted on 01/09/2014 8:51:15 AM PST by csivils
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