Skip to comments.U.S. Troop Fatalities in Afghanistan; Obama vs. Bush [Chart]
Posted on 01/09/2014 11:44:14 AM PST by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
America’s foreign policy is in a shambles. America’s domestic policy is in a shambles. Obama has spent, what, 180 days of his presidency golfing? And the big story in the news is that an aide to the Governor of New Jersey did something stupid that slowed down traffic. Amazing.
Where are you getting these numbers?
Nevermind - I see your link now...
You said that!! Begining with McCain.
ONE American dying is too many.
Anything you can do, I can do better.
I can do anything better than you...
That chart is a very interesting and sad reminder. Perhaps you should make one for Iraq as well.
Too Bad Juan isnt fat enough for the laurel and hardy..parody...
Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. Getting more soldiers killed in Afghanistan has not improved Obama’s golf swing one bit. I bet his strokes per game has even gone up a little.
No you can’t.
Yes I can!
I mean “Yes, we can!”
Why are we there? Why did we invade a country in order to go after a bunch of terrorists who move freely from country to country?
Sorry, there is enough blame to go around. It is curious that we don’t hear a peep from the anti-war left. Bunch of hypocrites.
The last 5 years is testimony to the fact that Democrats, Republicans, the Media, and Beltway types in general, use our troops for political ends.
If Republicans were truly interested in the troops they’d be screaming bloody murder for them to come home on the basis that a nation must be attempting to win a war for it to be ethical to ask its military members to shed their blood.
This is not the case. We have clearly lost far more “withdrawing” from this war than we did fighting it.
The never ending retreat from Afghanistan — giving the enemy many final shots, changing the Rules of Engagement so that our troops effectively are not permitted to fire on known enemies and absolutely forbidden if those enemies are in buildings.
And Paul Ryan underscores Republican contempt by taking money from those fighting the war.
You’ve said it far better than I could, and I completely agree.
This chart is hilarious at best and intentionally deceptive at worst.
For one, troop levels in Afghanistan under Bush were so low as to be nearly useless, ranging from only 10,000 in 2003 to barely above 30,000 when he left office. Obama raised troop levels to 100,000 by July 2010. These new troops were sent to areas solidly held by the Taliban, areas that were completely ignored for 7 years by the Bush administration. When you let your enemy fortify its position, stockpile munitions, and rally the local populace for that long, and then you finally bother to go kill them, yes, men are going to die.
Second, the idea that US withdrawal from Afghanistan began in July of 2011 is ridiculous. In July of 2011 we had more than 100K troops in the country, four times the average during the Bush administration. The troop surge in Afghanistan was still in progress and did not end until 1 October 2013, when troop levels dropped to 63,000. That was still more than double the number of troops than Bush had.
If you want to bash Obama for his legitimate failures, by all means, there are plenty of them, go on ahead. Blaming him for actually focusing on Afghanistan and fighting the enemy in their strongholds, however, is completely absurd.
These numbers have to be weighted by total number of troops deployed to get a valid comparison between the two presidents.
The numbers should also be separated and weighted by rules of engagement because those have changes a number of times.
I’m on board with you on those points. I posted my reply before I saw yours.
I’m looking ONLY at rows ‘2008’ and then ‘2009’ and then I’m not buying what you’re selling.