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Daily pot tied to age of first psychotic episode
Associated Press ^ | 1/10/2014 | Benjamin Stix

Posted on 01/10/2014 1:06:19 PM PST by Phillyred

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - In a study of adults who experienced psychosis for the first time, having smoked marijuana daily was linked to an earlier age of onset of the disorder, according to UK researchers. "This is not a study about the association between cannabis and psychosis, but about the association between specific patterns of cannabis use . . . and an earlier onset of psychotic disorders," Dr. Marta Di Forti, who led the research at the Institute of Psychiatry at Kings College, said in an email. Among more than 400 people in South London admitted to hospitals with a diagnosed psychotic episode, the study team found the heaviest smokers of high-potency cannabis averaged about six years younger than patients who had not been smoking pot. Psychosis is a general term for a loss of reality, and is associated with several psychiatric diseases, including schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: psychosis
Such an evil drug. Mostly because it is dismissed as being not long-term harmful or addictive. I have seen it too many times....people who used it heavily become complete losers. They remain adolescent. I know some who became schizophrenic. Sad. It is just common sense that a drug that makes you paranoid could harm you in that area of the brain. Explains a lot about our country's state.
1 posted on 01/10/2014 1:06:19 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: Mister Da

Hey, it’s 4:00 in the afternoon. You should get out of bed and read this.

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist)


2 posted on 01/10/2014 1:10:29 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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3 posted on 01/10/2014 1:11:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Phillyred
We make Coke illegal and legalize dope.
4 posted on 01/10/2014 1:14:05 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Phillyred

Correlation, but not causation.

In my experience a majority of drug users would appear to be mentally unbalanced individuals that are “self-medicating”. If your life is so screwed up that you jump at the chance to drug yourself insensate on a daily basis, if you’re apt to do anything that will help you forget who you are or where you are, then chances are you’re the kind of person that would be messed up whether you’d ever touched drugs or not.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 1:14:14 PM PST by jameslalor
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To: Phillyred

My former business partner tried pot once and had a psychotic fit that left him in bed with hallucinations for three days. (I’m pretty sure it was mild stuff. I was at the start of the same party and the New Yorkers were okay the next day.)He later went crazy. But I think he had a good head start. But he told me he’d never had pot before or since. That, I believe. So, just once is enough if you’re already on the edge. Problem is, you won’t know how far away the edge is until too late.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 1:15:00 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Phillyred

Yup.

There is nothing the statists want more than an electorate that is both dumbed down AND addled=brained from smoking marijuana.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 1:16:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Phillyred

The real Reefer Madness.

I find it amazing that the same group that demonizes cigs condones weed.

Do cigs cause psychotic episodes?


8 posted on 01/10/2014 1:18:58 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Phillyred

Pot smoking has become like homosexuality. “Experts” all around tell us it is perfectly normal and healthy, despite what your own eyes tell you.

I have argued with so many now who argue that they know all kinds of daily pot-smokers who are clean cut professionals holding jobs as doctors, laywers, engineers, etc... etc...

Like you, my own eyes tell me that daily pot smokers simply become losers who find it difficult to work, can not keep relationships and family, with ever-declining health.


9 posted on 01/10/2014 1:22:41 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Phillyred

Legalization and all this nonsense go along with:

The percentage of Americans identifying as liberal ticked up to a new record high, according to a new poll released Friday.

The new Gallup poll found that 23 percent of Americans identify as liberals, the highest number since Gallup started asking the question in its current form in 1992.


10 posted on 01/10/2014 1:23:37 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: PGR88

Every pothead online ‘knows’ people that use that are millionaires. Every single one. They themselves may never work, but dammit they know tons that do!

It truly is a very serious delusion and goes along with my previous post. As pot usage goes up this country will go more democrat by leaps and bounds.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 1:25:01 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Phillyred

12 posted on 01/10/2014 1:26:16 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: PGR88
“I have argued with so many now who argue that they know all kinds of daily pot-smokers who are clean cut professionals holding jobs as doctors, laywers, engineers, etc... etc...”

I've had the same conversations, but they never give names of specific people. It's cheap talk.

13 posted on 01/10/2014 1:36:20 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Monty22002

Speaking of delusions, what’s most exasperating about dopeheads, is that while their minds have become so slooow, with conversations constantly peppered with endless “uh..uh...uh’s,” they are convinced... absolutely convinced... that they have some kind of astonishing intellectual superiority.

Torpid minds and bodies. Perfect for a compliant populace of wastrels and layabouts. America just keeps sinking further and further into the abyss.


14 posted on 01/10/2014 1:39:56 PM PST by greene66
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To: Phillyred

Makes ya lazy, forgetful, and nowadays, broke.


15 posted on 01/10/2014 1:40:49 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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To: greene66

The drug changes their brain chemistry for a long time and they think it’s great and that they truly are smarter and more caring for using it.

I knew one person who used it for 6 months constantly and then quit and realized how bad off they were and how much better they could think and function after 3 or 4 months off it. But while they were on it they thought they were the top sh!t.

It’s very rare to find one that’s used and stopped long enough to realize it only makes them worse. Mostly people just don’t care about anything right now. The contrary is in an incredible malaise and liberaltarians rule during those times.


16 posted on 01/10/2014 1:49:16 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Do cigs cause psychotic episodes?

Only when one runs out...

17 posted on 01/10/2014 1:49:37 PM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: Phillyred

So the study asked particpants about weed, booze and other drug use, but the linked article correlated only to the use of pot.

Seems booze and other drugs might be a couple of relatively important variables to look into.

As would history of mental illness in the families of the participants.

Maybe it’s in the study and just not mentioned in the article?


18 posted on 01/10/2014 1:51:32 PM PST by dmz
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To: null and void

Yep!!!

I’ve saw it one time when I hid them from my mother when I was about 11 years old. I will NEVER do that again!!!


19 posted on 01/10/2014 1:54:33 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Gen.Blather
Makes me think of the stuff issued to me by the Govt.: Mefloquine. Taken once a week to ward off malaria. FDA approved, and required for use in countries with chloroquine resistant malaria. Everything is just fine for several hundred thousand of us for a couple of years. FDA says it's all good. Regional medical officers swore by it. Then suddenly guys on military bases start murdering their wives and children. Some experience hallucinations, bizarre mood swings. I was in Zaire when my furniture and carpeting tried to devour me one night. I was screaming like a little girl. I immediately flushed all doses down the toilet, and decided to take my chances with malaria. I had been taking Mefloquine for nearly two years without problems up to that point. You never know how far away that edge is...
20 posted on 01/10/2014 1:56:50 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Phillyred

A year ago Fox News hosted pro legalization Pot types. One anti pot legalization rep was a lawyer. He simply stated that states that legalize pot, his law firm will wait five years and sue the pot growers/sellers for damage in the same manner the tobacco industry was sued and fined. Give it time when a family of a pot smoker whose brains are fried by the legal pot will sue for damage.


21 posted on 01/10/2014 1:58:13 PM PST by Fee
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To: Phillyred

If and when we ban pot and make it illegal ,, the world will be a better place. . .


22 posted on 01/10/2014 2:01:29 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Monty22002

As pot usage goes up this country will go more democrat by leaps and bounds.

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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus12.pdf#058

The data at the link suggests that by the time on is 35, most have given up on pot (3.4% of the population using), while the same age group is binge drinking (18.9%) at about 6 times the percentage of the pot users.

With scarce resources, which group should we be focusing on?


23 posted on 01/10/2014 2:02:22 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz
So the study asked particpants about weed, booze and other drug use, but the linked article correlated only to the use of pot.

That probably found more long term chronic heavy pot users to report on than long term chronic heavy alcohol users, because the pot users were still alive.

24 posted on 01/10/2014 2:02:35 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: PowderMonkey

Thank you for your service. But your experience of being attacked by the furniture may have just been the furniture having a good laugh on you. They do that sometimes...What? Yeah, it’s a .30 caliber with a folding stock. No, I don’t hate my mother. Why?


25 posted on 01/10/2014 2:08:50 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

DON’T LISTEN TO HIM GEN.! ... It’s the same voice that keeps screaming at me to clean and load my guns!


26 posted on 01/10/2014 2:17:35 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: bramps

I am impressed you can read a clock. Better be careful though, clocks report facts, not ignorant opinions.


27 posted on 01/10/2014 2:17:38 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Monty22002
Those that have something to lose won't admit to most people that they smoke. Of course losers will be the most public about it.

I grew up poor and now rub shoulders with some of the wealthiest people in the Northeast due to my profession. Some were born into it but about half earned their wealth.

Without a doubt the greatest consumers of pot are the very rich. Go into a Manhattan boutique building on a weekend night and you'll smell at least one smoker on almost every floor. There are pot delivery guys all over the city and they know the doormen very well.

Poor people can't afford that much and middle class tax slaves have zero time to consume it.

28 posted on 01/10/2014 2:22:43 PM PST by varyouga
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Inhaling tobacco smoke into your lungs and then exhaling has been deemed by the experts to be pure evil.

Inhaling marijuana smoke into your lungs and then holding it there has been deemed by the experts as `whatever’.

So what gives? Smoke is smoke and is always a threat to the pulmonary system. Ask any fireman.


29 posted on 01/10/2014 2:37:40 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Phillyred

Makes me wonder why I didn’t go psychotic.


30 posted on 01/10/2014 2:40:09 PM PST by glorgau
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To: varyouga
Those that have something to lose won't admit to most people that they smoke. Of course losers will be the most public about it.

Very well put. I know a lot of people at MIT that partake. Often.

31 posted on 01/10/2014 2:44:35 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Do cigs cause psychotic episodes?”

Schizophrenics and other mentally ill are several times more likely to be tobacco smokers than the general population.

So by using the same logic as this study, yes, tobacco is “tied” to mental illness and “may” cause it.

It can’t be the fact that the mentally ill are far more likely to engage in risky behaviors and seek altered moods. The dang plants did it!

https://www.google.com/search?q=schizophrenics+tobacco&oq=schizophrenics+tobacco


32 posted on 01/10/2014 4:40:32 PM PST by varyouga
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To: PowderMonkey

You never know how far away that edge is...

That’s because you are STANDING on it.


33 posted on 01/10/2014 4:43:33 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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