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Chevy Camaro ZL1 owner fights dealership that totaled his car
Yahoo news ^ | 01/09/14 | By Justin Hyde

Posted on 01/10/2014 6:48:28 PM PST by rawhide

At 580 hp and a starting price of $55,000, the Chevy Camaro ZL1 ranks as the top dog of the Camaro lineup (at least until the Z/28 hits the track.) For Camaro enthusiasts like John Hooper, author of six books on the history of Camaros, it's a dream car — or at least was a dream car, until an employee at a Chevy dealership totaled his ZL1 on an unauthorized joyride. Nearly a month later, Hooper and the dealership have yet to agree on how much that particular top dog was worth.

According to Hooper's posts on the Camaro5 forum, he had taken his 2012 Camaro ZL1 to First State Chevy in Georgetown, Del., for warranty work on a paint issue. On Dec. 15, a Sunday, one of the dealer's employees took the keys from the closed dealership and went for a spin — that ended when the ZL1 sheared off a telephone pole.

The next day, the dealership told Hooper about the incident, and by the end of that week, the car had been declared a total loss. Since then, Hooper and First State have been unable to reach an accord over how to replace the ZL1.

To First State's credit, it immediately fired the employee who took the car and tried to pursue charges against him — but local officials said since the car was in the dealership's legal possession at the time of the crash, no crime was committed. Hooper's ZL1 had about 10,000 miles on it, and while First State has offered other used ZL1s as replacements, Hooper has said those cars were not worth as much as his example was pre-crash.

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Pretty bad advertisement for the dealership involved. You would figured they would give this guy a brand new car and make the news go away?
1 posted on 01/10/2014 6:48:28 PM PST by rawhide
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2 posted on 01/10/2014 6:49:15 PM PST by rawhide
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3 posted on 01/10/2014 6:50:25 PM PST by rawhide
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Dealership p0VVnz the vehicle. The previous owner should get a new vehicle.


4 posted on 01/10/2014 6:51:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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Yup, that is what I would have done. Said “We’ll take what our insurance company pays for your car and cover the rest. Lets get that new Camero ordered for you. What would you like to drive until it gets here?”


5 posted on 01/10/2014 6:58:12 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: rawhide

That’ll buff right out.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 7:00:18 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: rawhide

In the age of the internet, no bad deed goes unnoticed. Now folks around the world know about First State Chevy in Georgetown Delaware.
This has been reposted on automotive forums far and wide, LOL.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 7:01:35 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: rawhide

“but local officials said since the car was in the dealership’s legal possession at the time of the crash, no crime was committed.”

Baloney. Ask Steve McQueen what happens when you take a vehicle out without authorization.

What if the employee had taken cash from the dealership and went out and had a good old time. It is the same thing.

It IS stealing. The dealership should pursue charges. THey should replace the vehicle (I’m certain insurance covers a fair portion), and they should pursue civil charges against the employee and a garnishment of wages until the vehicle is paid off.


8 posted on 01/10/2014 7:02:27 PM PST by rey
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I don’t see how no crime was committed...the punk was not authorized by the dealership to take the car...at the very least there’s destruction of private property...joyriding?


9 posted on 01/10/2014 7:07:49 PM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: rawhide

http://www.firststatechevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2013-Chevrolet-Camaro-Convertible_ZL1-Georgetown-DE/1958269513

I suggest they give him that one and call it a deal.


10 posted on 01/10/2014 7:07:49 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Lx

“I have a friend who works on cars.”

I was actually told this at an accident scene one time. That was right before she fled the scene. She didn’t have a license or insurance and left the scene.

I got her license and the police paid her a visit an hour later.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 7:08:24 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: cableguymn

There may be some reason the guy doesn’t want a convert?
I can understand that, more chassis flex, rollover safety, etc.


12 posted on 01/10/2014 7:09:36 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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“She didn’t have a license or insurance “

I was hit by a girl who had an insurance card, but didn’t have insurance. The cops only look to see if you have the card. CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY IMMEDIATELY. If they do not have insurance, you can have the car impoiunded and often have the driver arrested.

Also, do not think that criminal court is your only avenue. Contact the DMV or sec of state. I witnessed a guy hit a cyclist who then fled. I got the plate, license, and got a look at the driver. The judge believed his boss that he was at work. The guy he hit was a lawyer and took him to a hearing witht eh sec of state. Your rights do not apply in these hearings. The guy was driving on a suspended license. The sec of state officials did not believe his story, and revoked his license and informed him it would be unlikely he ever got another license in that state.

CA DMV suspended vehicle registration and licenses on the vehicle that hit me. As it was registered to a family and they would not admit who was responsible, they suspended all their driver licenses and all vehicle registrations in their names until they paid a fine and got insurance. It did not help me, but it may stop them from hurting someone else.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 7:20:27 PM PST by rey
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I agree, and to top it off, free gas for a year.

They will come out way ahead by settling.


14 posted on 01/10/2014 7:20:28 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: dhs12345

” Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he’s got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.”


15 posted on 01/10/2014 7:21:44 PM PST by freefdny
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To: rawhide
Reminds me of this


16 posted on 01/10/2014 7:24:39 PM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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17 posted on 01/10/2014 7:26:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Lx

Ok Seinfeld. lol


18 posted on 01/10/2014 7:27:39 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: rottndog

I was dating a woman one time. Her car was broken into, and the teenage punks took the car on a joyride. They were caught when they brought the car back. They were charged with Unauthorized use of vehicle. Did some jail time.


19 posted on 01/10/2014 7:28:23 PM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: freefdny

Ok Spicolli

lol


20 posted on 01/10/2014 7:28:40 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: dhs12345

Dent Wizard. $99


21 posted on 01/10/2014 7:29:04 PM PST by ladyjane
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22 posted on 01/10/2014 7:29:53 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Wow! I want need one of those!
23 posted on 01/10/2014 7:31:59 PM PST by rawhide
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To: BBell

Exact image in my head.


24 posted on 01/10/2014 7:32:48 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: ETL

25 posted on 01/10/2014 7:34:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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Just curious what year, make and model car this is, so I get my order in tonight? (salivating)
26 posted on 01/10/2014 7:36:41 PM PST by rawhide
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27 posted on 01/10/2014 7:36:41 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: BBell
My first thought.....

LOL funny....

28 posted on 01/10/2014 7:37:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rawhide

When are these idiots (another example is Enterprise rent-a-wreck) going to grok that being jackwagons will cost them far more in new media exposure than (a) paying up and (b) their entire advertising budgets?

Idiots.


29 posted on 01/10/2014 7:37:41 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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30 posted on 01/10/2014 7:38:17 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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31 posted on 01/10/2014 7:39:11 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Lx

rofl


32 posted on 01/10/2014 7:39:34 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: nascarnation

well for one. They never offered it to him.

What they offered him was a used car, with 2 previous owners, wrong wheels and badges, new tires (car has 15K on it. why the new tires?) and a dirty carfax.

I would have turned it down too.


33 posted on 01/10/2014 7:40:58 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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Funnee.


34 posted on 01/10/2014 7:44:45 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You may be able to get one of these soon at your ChryslerFiat dealer.
35 posted on 01/10/2014 7:45:37 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: rawhide

I have been mulling a ZL-1 or a 1LE. Probably go with the 1le as it is faster than I am at this point in my life. Still...not much more for a ZL-1. Sad for the wreck. Looked like a nice machine.


36 posted on 01/10/2014 7:46:09 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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It’s an Alfa Romeo 4C, will be sold as a 2014 here in a few months. About the same price as the Camaro in the article.


37 posted on 01/10/2014 7:46:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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38 posted on 01/10/2014 7:47:05 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: rawhide

That will buff right out.

I have a 1967 Camaro convertible. Interesting thing is that it weighs about 800 lbs less than the new cars.


39 posted on 01/10/2014 7:48:03 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: reg45

Actually they’re thinking of selling them at their Maserati dealerships.


40 posted on 01/10/2014 7:48:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: ETL

SS/RS mine had the endura bumper. Wish I still had it. The 69 with the RS package and the cowl induction hood was one of the best if not the best looking automobile ever made.


41 posted on 01/10/2014 7:51:08 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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Found out they will be around $54,000. Not bad.
2014 Alfa Romeo 4C.


42 posted on 01/10/2014 7:51:29 PM PST by rawhide
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That is a very nice looking ride!


43 posted on 01/10/2014 7:52:56 PM PST by rawhide
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44 posted on 01/10/2014 7:53:06 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Yeah, I don’t like the new Camaros much at all. The only retro muscle car that I really like is the Mustang.


45 posted on 01/10/2014 7:55:38 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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That paint job would look pretty nifty on my old station wagon.


46 posted on 01/10/2014 7:56:09 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To each their own, but I hope you’re posting in jest.

In my personal opinion, they’ve already ruined that Camaro along with the gold one down the page. Same applies for the Impala as well.


47 posted on 01/10/2014 7:57:25 PM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: rawhide

This crap happens all the time and the dealers just don’t seem to really care. SOP is to try and distance themselves from liability by claiming it’s some rogue employee.


48 posted on 01/10/2014 8:03:41 PM PST by moehoward
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I just bought a new Chevy Equinox, got all the extended warranty and free lifetime synthetic oil change tossed in, what am I doing tomorrow?

Changing the oil myself, I used to be a GM tech, the lowest paid employees are the ones that change the oil. When i am unable to do it then I will tell the wife to take it in, I bought it for her.

I may in the near future either buy a caddy CRX, another Equinox or possibly a Corvette, and I would at the very least install an app that tells me when the car is running, where its heading etc, or tell the service department it has such software, if it moves I will know it.


49 posted on 01/10/2014 8:07:18 PM PST by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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>To each their own, but I hope you’re posting in jest.

Most definitely. I wrote in 45 that I don’t like the new Camaros much at all, even when they’re not all screwed up like the 2 “hip hop” versions I posted. I don’t know what else to call these modern customs with the ridiculously over-sized wheels. I know a lot of people who are into hip hop music love them. They’ve seem to replaced the low riders.


50 posted on 01/10/2014 8:08:10 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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