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The Obamacare Discrepancy in Jobs
Townhall.com ^ | January 12, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 01/12/2014 7:45:52 AM PST by Kaslin

The wide discrepancy between jobs and employment continues for a third month.

Jobs vs. Employment Discussion

Before diving into the details, it is important to understand limits on data, and how the BLS measures jobs in the establishment survey vs. employment in the household survey.

Establishment Survey: If you work one hour that counts as a job. There is no difference between one hour and 50 hours.
Establishment Survey: If you work multiple jobs you are counted twice. Neither the BLS nor ADP weed out duplicate social security numbers.

Household Survey: If you work one hour or 80 you are employed.
Household Survey: If you work a total of 35 hours you are considered a full time employee. If you work 25 hours at one job and 10 hours at another, you are a fulltime employee.

Following are numbers from today's BLS jobs releases.

December 2013 vs. December Prior Years

Category

DEC 2008

DEC 2009

DEC 2010

DEC 2011

DEC 2012

DEC 2013

Employed Household

143,369

138,013

139,266

140,836

143,212

144,586

Jobs Establishment

134,425

129,373

130,395

132,498

134,691

136,877



Monthly Averages December 2013 vs. December Prior Years

Category

DEC 2009

DEC 2010

DEC 2011

DEC 2012

DEC 2013

Yoy Change Household

(5,356)

1,253

1,570

2,376

1,374

Yoy Change establishment

(5,052)

1,022

2,103

2,193

2,186

Monthly Average Household

-446

104

131

198

115

Monthly Average Establishment

-421

85

175

183

182



Notice how closely in sync the household survey has been to the establishment survey in terms of average gains or losses. A divergence developed in 2013.

Here is the data I posted last month (I did not check for revisions).

November 2013 vs. November Prior Years

Category

Nov 2008

Nov 2009

Nov 2010

Nov 2011

Nov 2012

Nov 2013

Employed Household

144,100

138,665

139,046

140,771

143,277

144,386

Jobs Establishment

135,130

129,593

130,300

132,268

134,472

136,765


Monthly Averages November 2013 vs. November Prior Years

Category

Nov 2009

Nov 2010

Nov 2011

Nov 2012

Nov 2013

Yoy Change Household

(5,435)

381

1,725

2,506

1,109

Yoy Change establishment

(5,537)

707

1,968

2,204

2,293

Monthly Average Household

-453

32

144

209

92

Monthly Average Establishment

-461

59

164

184

191



Last month the discrepancy between reported employment and reported jobs was 191,000 - 92,000 = 99,000.

This month the discrepancy between reported employment and reported jobs is 182,000 - 115,000 = 67,000.

These discrepancies started in 2013.

I asked the BLS to take multiple social security numbers into consideration. They cannot because all they have is raw counts. ADP could, but wouldn't, citing privacy issues.

However, there are no privacy issues. A program would be trivial to write, but most likely one would not even have to do that. A sort utility extracting and counting duplicate social security numbers would suffice.

I believe Obamacare is the reason for the discrepancy.

Obamacare Effect

Prior to Obamacare
34 hours worked = 1 parttime job household survey
34 hours worked = 1 job establishment survey

Enter obamacare
Person cut back to 25 hours and takes a second job for 10 hours
Here is the new math

25 + 10 = 1 fulltime job on the household survey.
25 + 10 = 2 jobs on the establishment survey.

In my example, the household survey totals up all the hours and says, voilla! (35 hours = full time). So a few extra hours that people pick up working 2 part time jobs now throws someone into full time status – thus no surge in part-time employment, but there is a surge in jobs.

Establishment Survey Jobs Surge Ended This Month

Interestingly, the surge in jobs in the establishment survey ended today. See Big Miss: Nonfarm Payrolls +74,000 vs. 205,000 Expected; Unemployment Rate 6.7% as Labor Force Shrinks by 347,000.

Two Possibilities

  1. Perhaps today's weak job report is a one-time thing. Some economists blamed the weather.
  2. The other possibility is the Obamacare effect has mostly played out, and Establishment Survey results going forward will not get a multiple job boost for the rest of the year.


If the Obamacare multiple job surge has indeed played out, monthly establishment survey job gains are going to be weaker than most expect for 2014.



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1 posted on 01/12/2014 7:45:52 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There is no relation between jobs and employment in the Obama economy.
As long as the illusion of recovery stays strong, all is well.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 7:54:14 AM PST by Rennes Templar (If you like your disease, you can keep it.)
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To: Kaslin

How I LOATHE our current Congress. How I LOATHE our current CIC.

As an employer, the above is true. I’ll be hiring for our busy spring season, but that will be 29 hours MAX a week for 12 weeks, then - SEE YA! Not a lot above minimum wage, either! You can make a whopping $2,000.00 in that period, after taxes, of course! That should set a family up quite nicely for the remainder of the year. *GAG* (I won’t hire HS kids; they’re lazy IDIOTS!)

It’s going to be ugly. And I am going to tell EVERY 0bama-voter, complaining customer (and I am in The Belly of the Beast here in Madistan!) that our lowered service standards or lack-thereof the EXACT reason why our business is hamstrung: 0bamacare.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 8:09:20 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Kaslin

Next month they will increase the chocolate ration again too. Ain’t Communism wonderful?


4 posted on 01/12/2014 8:14:09 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin
But the unemployment rate is down to 6.7%, which you will hear ad nauseum straight thru the Driving The Stake Through The Union Show later this month.
5 posted on 01/12/2014 8:45:11 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Kaslin

The democrats are wildly disrupting our nation’s employment statistics.

They are no longer even close to accurate.

That said, the GOP needs to get back to supporting American manufacturing.

Now.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 8:47:35 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Kaslin
From the article, 'Explaining the Flaw in Kevin Drum's Climate Chart.'

Here are the individual performances of each president since 1948:
1948-1952 (Harry S. Truman, Democrat), +4.82%
1953-1960 (Dwight D. Eisenhower, Republican), +3%
1961-1964 (John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson, Democrat), +4.65%
1965-1968 (Lyndon B. Johnson, Democrat), +5.05%
1969-1972 (Richard Nixon, Republican), +3%
1973-1976 (Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford, Republican), +2.6%
1977-1980 (Jimmy Carter, Democrat), +3.25%
1981-1988 (Ronald Reagan, Republican), 3.4%
1989-1992 (George H. W. Bush, Republican), 2.17%
1993-2000 (Bill Clinton, Democrat), 3.88%
2001-2008 (George W. Bush, Republican), +2.09%
2009 (Barack Obama, Democrat), -2.6%

Let’s put this data in a chart:


7 posted on 01/12/2014 8:57:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Rennes Templar

uh huh


8 posted on 01/12/2014 9:07:07 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Dr.Deth
And only 74,000 new jobs were created.

Who do they think they are kidding?

9 posted on 01/12/2014 9:14:59 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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