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To: Sherman Logan
That’s not what you said. You said that people who promote certain political/cultural POVs should be criminally prosecuted and imprisoned for doing so.

It’s entirely appropriate to make tax-exempt status incompatible with such promotion, but not the promotion itself.


In your last sentence, do you mean that the promotion should not be criminalized, but allowed to continue just not have tax exempt status ?

Although it should be noted we’d need to cancel all such status for those promoting any type of political/cultural POV, including churches and conservative organizations.

This is what most people don't understand about the Christian Church. It is completely different from any and all other organizations, because it predates any and all governments in existence today. It is based on the Bible, which self-describes as divine revelation. The Bible recognizes no authority over God, actually the reverse, it declares that God has authority over all. God's Word, the Bible, does not give authority for civil governments to levy taxes on the Church. The Bible tells us that the Church belongs to Jesus Christ, and it predates all earthly governments in effect today.

Those that reject God, i.e., say they don't believe in him, have simply come to have so much societal influence today that the Christrian church is viewed much the same as any club or group that forms.

As far as all present-day "organizations", they are managed by people who have money and power. Even though they may troll for donations amongst the middle class, it is the elites of society who determine how the money is spent. Well-funded organizations are always started with some type of endowment from monied interests. Thus, the will of the monied interests is carried out by minions working for an organization that has the added financial efficiency of not having to pay taxes. The whole key to these organizations is in their board members, who are the real controllers of the organization's activities.

It sounded so good to allow for tax exemption for "noble causes" over the last century, but the arrangement was nothing but a moral poison that the nation has ingested.

A side effect of such a policy would be that there would be a lot fewer organizations of this type. That can be considered as a good or bad thing. It would certainly give increased influence to those organizations promoting such POVs, such as MSM, that are already paying taxes.

The Bible offers wise guidance: "giving" to a "charitable cause" for the wrong reason is most certainly not a worthy deed. Having the availability of a tax exemption for the giver tempts them to take the tax exemption. When they do this, it taints their act of giving. We ought not to accept ANY gain when we "give" to a "noble cause". If the cause is truly worthy, AND people are so "good", they WILL give without receiving back the benefit of a tax exemption.

Our moral "clouding" - which began arguably at the nation's founding - has completely confused us, so much so that we say the moral is immoral and the immoral is moral. Our confusion began very slowly and very subtlely, far back in the 1800's, one step at a time, and each mistake seemed to not be significant at the time. But mistakes in principles lead to ever-increasing corruption, and lead to the full reversals we see today.
35 posted on 01/14/2014 9:14:19 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
God's Word, the Bible, does not give authority for civil governments to levy taxes on the Church. The Bible tells us that the Church belongs to Jesus Christ, and it predates all earthly governments in effect today.

The real problem here is that when you use the Bible as an authority for what is allowable in American government or society, all communication ceases. Those who are non or anti Christian, and even many who think of themselves as Christians, are not persuaded by your claims, in fact they are repelled by them. Their use in modern political dialog is IMO profoundly counter-productive.

I may even agree with you, but it would be idiotic for me to use an argument that is destructive to what I'm trying to accomplish.

36 posted on 01/14/2014 9:23:52 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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